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Remembering 9/11

Today is a day of remembrance in the USA, my grandfathers generation had Pearl Harbor, my parents the day JFK was shot, I have seared into my memory what I was doing when first I learned of the attack on the towers.  I was getting ready to sow alfalfa, got into my pickup and was only halfway listening to the radio when I heard the phrase "where the twin towers use to stand",  This caught my attention.  Back into the house, on went the TV.  I sat in front of the television for 5 hours.  First off was the report that 50000 body bags had been ordered, 5 more planes were unaccounted for, the news had all sorts of additional attacks coming. By evening the death toll estimate had dropped to 10000, the actual figure was bad enough.  Somewhere along the way, someone decided we would have a gasoline shortage, my mother called me at about 3 pm to suggest frantically I order a load of diesel, I called my supplier and he said it would be the same price the next day it had been the day before, not everyone was so honest, some gas stations tripled the price or more, and both of our local stations sold out, gas lines in a town of 900, something I never thought I'd see.  People who bothered to look up that morning saw a strange sight, airplanes turning around in the sky, puzzling to cowboys gathering cattle who didn't know any different.  Several days were spent with not one plane in sight, something I had never seen in my lifetime.  Several locals on vacation were stranded.

We were humbled by the world rallying to our cause at the time, we were pretty shaken, we are not afraid of a fight in the USA, but we have to know who to fight.  6 years later all I can say is we have not been hit again, although our government constantly reminds us it is just a matter of time, and next time will probably be worse.  Regardless of the way anyone reading this feels, it is very hard from my farm in Kansas to understand what it is about my country and its people that would inspire others to kill themselves in order to kill as many of us as possible.  I can't believe we are really that bad.

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Tas Cowboy said:

The thing for me KF is that the USA INVADED IRAQ.

What happened at the Twin Towers was terrible but how many innocent people have been killed since the USA INVADED IRAQ? More than those innocent people who were killed in the attacks of Sept 11 I would guess & many more at that.

And for what? Al Kaeda still exist & will do indefinitely. Many have been killed but plenty more have taken their place. For all the money that the Americans have spent Bin Laden is still at large.

What does this tell you? The Iraqi's gave up Saddam but no one will give Bin Laden up. Why?

The INVADERS should get out of IRAQ, it has become the Vietman of the new millenium. My country has soldiers there & I say bring them home. There has been conflict in the Middle East since the dawn of time & there will be until the end of time IMHO.

Cut your losses & bring the soldiers home.

Sorry if I have offended you, just my opinion thats all.

September 14, 2007 6:17 AM [Delete]
 

He his-self said:

No Kansas you are not bad people, the bad people are those who fly planes into buildings long before any thought of intervention  anywhwere.

September 14, 2007 7:59 AM [Delete]
 

kansasfarmer said:

Tas:  You didn't offend me with your point of view, although I don't agree with all of it.  There are plenty of people in the world who hate the USA.  Some probably have good reason, most don't.  The war in Iraq is very unpopular here, and in retrospect it has not been handled very well.  I believe that George Bush truly believed the Iraqis had WMDs when we invaded, and I suspect that they probably did, just because none were found doesn't mean they were never there.  I don't think we worry so much about a nation using a nuke on us as we do about a nation giving or selling a nuke to terrorists.  There is a new book out in this country now by Alan Greenspan saying that this was all about oil, some even say it was about Bush getting even with Saddam because of the plot by Iraq to kill Bush Sr.  Of course at the heart of it you can always say anything we do in the Middle east is about oil.  We aren't the only nation that relies on that oil though you would think we were to listen to the media.  I have also heard a theory that the powers that be knew that if we invaded Iraq the terrorists would come in droves to Iraq, and it was alot better to kill them there then it was for them to get over here.  I tend to believe that is the reason we invaded Iraq more than any other.  In the process,we did get rid of a brutal tyrant.  It doesn't appear to me that the Iraqis would have ever been rid of him otherwise.  Much of the killing going on now can be attributed to the fact they no longer have a ruthless leader...he kept them in check. The fact that Iraq is a nation much like Yugoslavia was, drawn up by foreign powers after a world war doesn't help their cohesiveness.   Our own history is such that when we kicked the British out of our nation, about a quarter (I think) of the population was not in favor of it, they wanted to stay British, and put up a fight alongside the Redcoats.  We call them Tories, the more appropriate term I think was Loyalists.  It stands to reason that not every single person in Iraq hated Saddam, and those he favored lost alot when we ousted him, so they hate us, then add all of the extremists coming over the border, they hate us too. They want us to fail in Iraq and are going to work to see that we do.  At the end of the day, our country has not been attacked since 9-11, and to me that says that Bush has done a good job of defending us.  The world may indeed hate the USA, but all should remember, if you pick a fight with us, we will not just wait for more, we are going to fight back.  

This is a long way from being Vietnam.  Every single loss in Iraq is a tragedy, but from a military point of view, it seems to me that few other nations could invade a nation and defeat an army  with 3000-3500 deaths over 3 years.  My wife's grandfather was at Iwo Jima, I think 5500 Americans died just taking that island.  Nobody likes war, I sure don't, but sometimes it happens.  I am  not going to say today I think we have been 100% right, but we certainly have the right to go after those responsible for killing our citizens on 9-11, we also have the right to go after anyone anywhere who supported them,and the right to go after anyone anywhere plotting another attack.  Finally, who can say the Iraqis long term were better off under Saddam, were the Germans better off under Hitler(many were very well off)?  I often see the USA portrayed as this huge bully by our own media as well as that of much of the world.  We are a powerful country, that really isn't our fault, that is just the way it is.  We are mostly made up of the rejects of Europe when you get down to it, the poor cousin that succeeded if you will.  Seems to me when you balance the good we have done in the world(who is the first to respond with aid everytime a natural disaster strikes a third world country, even Iran?)  with whatever bad we have done, we are a pretty good neighbor and friend to have.  Russia seems to be wanting back in the superpower act, will the world be a better place if they take their extensive oil revenues and build a military that can match ours?  I wonder who Europe will want to be best buddies with if Russian military might ever reemerges.  We may not look so bad then.  

September 18, 2007 7:48 PM [Delete]
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