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Last post Wed, Jun 11 2008 4:36 by bluepaint. 11 replies.
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  • Sun, May 18 2008 16:52

    Bio Desal costs

     Ok im int the proses of buying a new truck that has a rater large desal engine in it 6.5l V8 and am wondering if it would work out cheeper to run it on Bio Desal or chip pan oil that regular desal fule as the regular stup costs about $1.30 a litter over here. Does any one have aney expereance of runing cars/trucks on eather of theys and the costs asocheated with them as i cant sem to find mutch on the internet about cost of it per Litter only production costs and nothing on the costs of converting the engine to take the chip pan oil.

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  • Sun, Jun 1 2008 7:16 In reply to

    • bluepaint
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    Re: Bio Desal costs

    Why do you think it will need converting....?

    We run a mix in everything from vintage cat's to pick-ups and some neighbours run pure bio in every thing . All seem fine ,A few VW's have had problems and a few tractors with rotary pumps.

    We're part of a group building a bio plant right now and have done extensive tests with cat and cummins engines and found only "Tweaks" are needed..?

    What is your truck .Ford/Dodge or chev..????

  • Sun, Jun 1 2008 12:56 In reply to

    • flowerdrum
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    Re: Bio Desal costs

    The main adjustment is the fuel pump, change from whatever to a Bosch.

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  • Sun, Jun 1 2008 15:30 In reply to

    Re: Bio Desal costs

    The tuck is a 96 Chev 3500.

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  • Mon, Jun 2 2008 4:55 In reply to

    • bluepaint
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    Re: Bio Desal costs

    From experience with a 94 2500 and neighbours trucks ,The pump is troublesome enough on those engines and most were re-called and a different pump fitted ....They were not cheap.Many would not run on red diesel and were very fussy and liked the better quality road fuel.Never tried bio in one ..That would be interesting.

    I know duramax's that are ok on it.

  • Tue, Jun 3 2008 0:13 In reply to

    Re: Bio Desal costs

    This one haw a brand new injector pump on it so it should be ok i would of thought. I know it runs fine on the red as thats what i run it on as its a 130L tank to fill its a littal pricey but i still have over a 1/4 of a tank and 600k so far thats not to bad.

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  • Wed, Jun 4 2008 6:12 In reply to

    • bluepaint
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    Re: Bio Desal costs

    Hopefully she'll be good.........Funny how all them motors had pump work or pumps changed........Personally i would still have a good old 350 or a duramax......Much less hastle.

    Just my taste.....They are awesome pullers though and sound sweeeet with a big pipe.....Cool

  • Fri, Jun 6 2008 23:53 In reply to

    • robexel
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    Re: Bio Desal costs

    Do you have all these emissions rules in Canada?  Most people say the European Tier 3 and 4 engines won't run on bio-diesel, but the old ones will.  I was wondering what type of engines are in these American trucks and tractors, might be useful to import one or two for running on biofuel.

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  • Sun, Jun 8 2008 6:58 In reply to

    • bluepaint
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    Re: Bio Desal costs

    Generally not yet but all new stuff conforms to "california" regs....It's funny becuase we're told all new motors are fine and "EU tier 3 and 4" Are what we have to live up to ??????..It's the old ones that are a problem......As i said my 1960's CAT D7's,1970's detroit 2 cycles-Magnums/Genisis/N14's/3406's /Even new fendts are ok all our problems are with rotary pumps....?

    Nothing you don't have....L10's,855's,N14's....3306's,3406's,..Etc.....The detroit 60 series is the "motor of the moment"...???

  • Sun, Jun 8 2008 23:50 In reply to

    • robexel
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    Re: Bio Desal costs

    Well, the Fendts are fitted with Deutz engines, which have been designed to run on bio-diesel since 1995, but it looks like all the others are lagging behind.  I was really hoping for something that would run on pure canola oil, rather than processed bio-fuel.  Any experience with that?  Apparently the problem is with common-rail electonic injection systems, does anyone still make basic mechanical ones?

    Ah well, until something shows up I'll try to find out if I can put a Deutz diesel into a pickup truck. Geeked

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  • Mon, Jun 9 2008 20:28 In reply to

    Re: Bio Desal costs

    lol yere probubley just make sure its a 4x4 truck

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  • Wed, Jun 11 2008 4:36 In reply to

    • bluepaint
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    Re: Bio Desal costs

    We put it in the old 2 cycle detroits ok but have not done many tests on many modern or european motors,Just stuck to the bread and butter (Cummins/CAT/Perkins)..?

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