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Brome in barley and oats/ Better labelling needed

Last post Mon, Sep 18 2006 14:37 by fwi admin. 2 replies.
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  • Mon, Sep 18 2006 14:37

    • peterh
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    Brome in barley and oats/ Better labelling needed

    We have an abundance of chickweed and cleavers as well as some redshank and red dead nettle.

    The grassweeds are annual meadow grass, rough meadow grass and a low level of brome which is only too keen to explode to a high level of brome given the right conditions.

    Also we have the need to control volenteer tame oats in one field each year. This year we had an early harvest followed by some good showers and have managed a good level of control by a quick cultivation followed by roundup.

    The problem I have is getting the best chemicals for the job. Many adverts mention blackgrass and wild oats. One weedkiller I bought only mentioned

    5 weeds on the lable then went on to give dire warnings about following crops which gave the impresion that this product killed almost everything under the sun, but nothing else on the label to suggest what else could be controlled, even at lower levels.

    Can our experts help in better labeling? Is there anything to controll brome in barley and oats?

    Peter M Hogg

  • Mon, Sep 18 2006 23:14 In reply to

    Re: Brome in barley and oats/ Better labelling needed

    Peter,

    There is nothing selective for brome applied post em in barley or oats so you have to target pre em in those crops ....and utilise as much glyphosate pre sowing as you can and already do.

    Use Flufenacet/Pendimethalin mixtures in barley but do observe label sowing depths, Avadex can also be used. In oats Uranus can be used pre-em as a SOLA but brome is likely to romp through that.

    For weeds to be quoted on label products must demonstrate reliable control >85%. Following crops can often be damaged or stunted ...even at 20% damage a grower would not be happy so warnings are stated on label but that should not be interpreted as a good level of efficacy.

    Dick

  • Wed, Sep 27 2006 9:51 In reply to

    Re: Brome in barley and oats/ Better labelling needed

    If you go with Crystal as a pre-em and follow with IPU early post-em, you can get good control but you have to watch crop safety. The risk is that if the soil’s too warm you can get too much uptake of IPU and could risk a bit of crop damage.

    There is no brome control in oats so you must make sure it’s germinated before drilling and again after the oats have been harvested, and if necessary delay drilling, or consider a return to the plough if it’s very dry (i.e. no chitting).

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