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  • Fri, Mar 30 2012 10:53

    • Veg-Man
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    Does any one have any idea for Poultry lighting

    how to choose the poultry light? It is chicken.

    Which light do you use? Warm white or something else? Shall i use led light? thanks.

  • Wed, Apr 4 2012 9:43 In reply to

    • Peter Wells
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    Re: Does any one have any idea for Poultry lighting

    As I only keep a few layers for eggs and free range for the Christmas trade I am not an expert.

    However, if you are hatching/or keep chicks you will need a heat/light, but if it is lighting for sheds and/or battery cages, I think a low flourescent is what a neigbour uses.

  • Wed, Apr 4 2012 10:15 In reply to

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    Re: Does any one have any idea for Poultry lighting

    Veg-Man:
    how to choose the poultry light?

    What are you lighting for?

    Be very clear about what you trying to do and do it. 

    Rearing or laying, meat production?

    Is it for a small number in the backyard or are you thinking about large production of 1,000s?

    Light can be used for heat to brood, light can be used to 'force' laying. Light can impact on moult.

    If you are a small producer use the natural effects. If you are rearing a few colour don't matter so much.

     LED? what is that about? Do you want to rear chickens or save the planet. This is the trouble when objectives collide with human belief and scientific reason.

    Farming is for us, all.
  • Wed, Apr 4 2012 10:51 In reply to

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    Re: Does any one have any idea for Poultry lighting

     I have considerable doubts about the motivation behind this thread, and suspect it could be lightly disguised advertising for some company or individual trying to sell LEDs to chicken keepers.

     Motley has asked the pertinent questions governing the correct reasons for installing lighting, and if it is decided that lighting is needed (as opposed to brooder heat) then LEDs may well now be the sensible light source, regardless of saving the planet.  Asking the question the other way round is distinctly fishy.

  • Thu, Apr 5 2012 8:19 In reply to

    Re: Does any one have any idea for Poultry lighting

    Led lights are the best one to be used for poultry lighting..
  • Thu, Apr 5 2012 8:45 In reply to

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    Re: Does any one have any idea for Poultry lighting

    confirmation on a sales strategum I would hazard.

    I have messed around on various 'social' mediums, and why would someone spend the time to write led lights are best with no support for best is a mystry it is enough to ensure to the wise mind to leave well alone. Why do you need lights for poultry anyway there is the sun for jungle fowl and that is how nature functions. What did human kind do for the 1000s of years before 1948 when electricity became available widely in the UK?

    What would anyone who lives in urban Britain do if the lights went out, and no tv and no internet no i tunes, ipad, i phone?

    Live at little that is what they would do - and

    Farming is for us, all.
  • Thu, Apr 5 2012 11:23 In reply to

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    Re: Does any one have any idea for Poultry lighting

    motley:
    confirmation on a sales strategum I would hazard.

    Difficult to spot all advertising and, to be fair, sometimes we can learn a lot from discussions with people trying to sell us things. Personally I try to find out what someone is not saying as this can give a guide as to weaknesses or omissions.

    I think an earlier comment from Isabel set the tone for the forum in that discussion and debate can establish someone's credentials and, in any case, members can always contact the poster via the email or message buttons onscreen.

    Overt advertising is out but discussion, debate Q&A and endorsement is fine if balanced.

  • Thu, Apr 5 2012 14:19 In reply to

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    Re: Does any one have any idea for Poultry lighting

    Peter Wells:

    motley:
    confirmation on a sales strategum I would hazard.

    Overt advertising is out but discussion, debate Q&A and endorsement is fine if balanced.

     OK, why are LED's better than fluorescents for chickens then?

    What sort of LED? GaAlAs on GaAs, isoelectronically doped GaP, GaN Quantum wells on sapphire + cerium and YAG phosphors, Blue GaInN quantum wells with just YAG phosphor?  Phosphor-on-chip or remote phoshor?

    What illumination level is optimum (Iin whatever units you prefer)?

    Is it better to have small individual inverters for each LED cluster, or a few larger constant current supplies?

    What is the efficiency of the inverters or power supplies being proposed, what is their power factor, and is it leading or lagging?

    What is the predicted wearout life of the LEDs?

    What is the predicted random failure rate of the LEDs in FITs? (Failures in 10-to-the-power-9 hours)?

    What is the random failure rate of the inverters in FITs a) with the lamp fitting upright

                                                                                  b) with the lamp fitting inverted.

    Will the units tolerate a 100 microsecond 700 volt domestic mains switching transient?

    Better stop before perfectly legitimate forum users start to lose the will to live!

     

     

  • Thu, Apr 5 2012 15:43 In reply to

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    Re: Does any one have any idea for Poultry lighting

    I do not sell any poultry light. Actually one of my friends tell me LED could be used for Chicken. He wants to invest the money on this. I am not confident with this. Search and nothing. Only the sales man say: Yes, it does. no data, no research, it is nothing. What i get is LED will save the energy only. That is.
  • Wed, Apr 11 2012 11:38 In reply to

    Re: Does any one have any idea for Poultry lighting

    We use dimmable fluorescent tubes in our poultry houses. Used on a dawn til dusk comtroller they work well, & you can set the light intensity % on them. Also they are quite good on energy consumption.
  • Wed, Apr 11 2012 15:05 In reply to

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    Re: Does any one have any idea for Poultry lighting

    Dave The Egg:
    We use dimmable fluorescent tubes in our poultry houses. Used on a dawn til dusk comtroller they work well, & you can set the light intensity % on them. Also they are quite good on energy consumption.

     That seems entirely sensible, and illustrates the silliness of the original posting.  There is certainly no point in changing your lighting scheme at the moment, but if you were installing new right now it would be worth looking seriously at LEDs as a way of getting the same or slightly better lighting more cheaply.  In another 5 years I guarantee most new large chicken houses will be lit by LEDs, but not necessarily yet, and certainly not from Ho Ming Fu's cheapo LED company.

  • Wed, Apr 11 2012 21:18 In reply to

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    Re: Does any one have any idea for Poultry lighting

    You would need to see some significant savings from LEDs to make up for the cost of the things to start with, and they would need to last a long time. I thought about installing them in my hallway to replace the 6 spotlights I've got there at the moment, but at £14 a piece I think I'll just carry on yelling at the kids when they leave the tungsten ones turned on.
  • Thu, Apr 19 2012 10:57 In reply to

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    Re: Does any one have any idea for Poultry lighting

    Thanks your information. I am testing the different light.
  • Wed, Jan 2 2013 14:39 In reply to

    Re: Does any one have any idea for Poultry lighting

    Hi, You can easily LED ligting for Poultry and the temperature of the light can be made to your requirement. LED tubes are now all over the internet but make sure you get a good qulaity version. I supplied these to a company in ireland. LED will save you about 40% comparted to a flourescent tube. feel free to call me 01260 224062
  • Thu, Jan 17 2013 22:11 In reply to

    • old mcdonald
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    Re: Does any one have any idea for Poultry lighting

    Since the OP (who I very much suspect does not live in Britain) referred to "chicken" as opposed to "hen" I assume he is enquiring (if he is enquiring) about chickens in their early stages. Confirmation of this would be appropriate.

  • Wed, Mar 6 2013 15:02 In reply to

    Re: Does any one have any idea for Poultry lighting

    Hi, warm white is best, about 3000k. It reduces aggression/pecking.

    I can send you some before and after pictures if you are interested.

    We removed 99*60w lamps and replaced them with 98*9w 24v LED dimming strips. The saving made was just under 5000w and the light output increased by 4.

  • Thu, Mar 7 2013 18:40 In reply to

    Re: Does any one have any idea for Poultry lighting

    Sunshine is pretty good I hear. Cheap too.
  • Thu, Mar 7 2013 19:16 In reply to

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    Re: Does any one have any idea for Poultry lighting

    Back In Black:
    Sunshine is pretty good I hear. Cheap too.
     

     Ah, now I've never been able to hear sunlight, but it certainly looks good, and even the Milibore isn't proposing taxing it.

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