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  • Tue, Apr 3 2012 16:22

    Easy care sheep breeds

    Just been reading Neale McQuistin's next column for FW (it appears in the April 13 issue) and he's talking about easy care sheep - and why, particularly, he doesn't keep them.

    He isn't drawn by the prospect of producing a "standard product that will not be getting a premium in the market either in terms of looks or carcass quality".

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  • Tue, Apr 3 2012 19:26 In reply to

    Re: Easy care sheep breeds

    It's a bit difficult to comment without reading the article.
  • Sat, Apr 14 2012 12:51 In reply to

    Re: Easy care sheep breeds

    I do believe there may have been a kick in that article aimed in my direction ?

    All I will say is that there's a big difference between Easy-care and Don't-care.

  • Sat, Apr 14 2012 13:12 In reply to

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    Re: Easy care sheep breeds

    As a full time manager, my first loyalty is to my employers' stock, so any livestock I run for myself has to be "easy care", and with a large expat market at my disposal, selling Dorper lambs is a premium market for me.
    http://sangacattle.webs.com/
  • Sat, Apr 14 2012 16:33 In reply to

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    Re: Easy care sheep breeds

    welshnwilling:

    I do believe there may have been a kick in that article aimed in my direction ?

    I thought that as I was reading it! I suppose you have to be one of us select few who regularly read FWi to pick up on it though.
  • Sat, Apr 14 2012 18:10 In reply to

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    Re: Easy care sheep breeds

    bovril:
    welshnwilling:

    I do believe there may have been a kick in that article aimed in my direction ?

    I thought that as I was reading it! I suppose you have to be one of us select few who regularly read FWi to pick up on it though.
     

    i thought the same thing, whilst i was thinking what a tit the  bloke who wrote it must be, as far as i'm concerned, making hard work of life for that one day at market where it all comes together is pointless, why not make your system easy and give your self time to enjoy life/ go off and earn money doing something else?

     

  • Sat, Apr 14 2012 19:18 In reply to

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    Gulli:

    bovril:
    welshnwilling:

    I do believe there may have been a kick in that article aimed in my direction ?

    I thought that as I was reading it! I suppose you have to be one of us select few who regularly read FWi to pick up on it though.
     

    i thought the same thing, whilst i was thinking what a tit the  bloke who wrote it must be, as far as i'm concerned, making hard work of life for that one day at market where it all comes together is pointless, why not make your system easy and give your self time to enjoy life/ go off and earn money doing something else?

    He must be a forum regular or he wouldn't know about me eh ??

  • Sat, Apr 14 2012 19:28 In reply to

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    Re: Easy care sheep breeds

    I spose the point was that he hoped to make a few extra quid for the extra work

    welshnwilling:
    He must be a forum regular or he wouldn't know about me

    Your more famous than you think

  • Sat, Apr 14 2012 19:35 In reply to

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    Re: Easy care sheep breeds

    welshnwilling:

    He must be a forum regular or he wouldn't know about me eh ??

    down the Gym now blydi hell wnw,you'll be parading round Aberystwyth in fake tan next,Wink
  • Sat, Apr 14 2012 19:53 In reply to

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    Anyone who knows me or even anyone who's seen me would know I'm not a gym fanatic. And as for the parading around Aber in fake tan Cymro, I was rather hoping to keep that to myself. It seems the cat's out of the bag now. Embarrassed

  • Sat, Apr 14 2012 21:05 In reply to

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    Re: Easy care sheep breeds

    henarar:

    I spose the point was that he hoped to make a few extra quid for the extra work

     

    well i realise that but is he really with all the extra work hes putting in and i dont imagine hes still going to be able to jump off his bike onto a blackface when hes 60, whereas those lazy easy care farmers will be fresh as their newborn lambs

     

  • Sat, Apr 14 2012 21:52 In reply to

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    I thought he was all skin and bone after such a hard time lambing

  • Sat, Apr 14 2012 21:56 In reply to

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    Re: Easy care sheep breeds

     he would say that, if he told everyone how easy it was they would all be doing it too and he wouldnt have his competitive edge

  • Sat, Apr 14 2012 22:23 In reply to

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    Cheeky buggers ! I may not be as nimble as I was 20 yrs ago but I'll have you know I can jump off a quad and catch an ewe just as well as the next man. Though I don't need to very often. Stick out tongue
  • Sun, Apr 15 2012 9:26 In reply to

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    Re: Easy care sheep breeds

    welshnwilling:
    Cheeky buggers !

    Ahh all this comes when you start to get talked about in the pressBig Smile

    welshnwilling:
    I can jump off a quad and catch an ewe

    Have a look at the Portequip atv calf catcher I dont no if it would work for sheep?

  • Sun, Apr 15 2012 10:19 In reply to

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    henarar:
    Have a look at the Portequip atv calf catcher I dont no if it would work for sheep?

    No I don't think it would. It's doubtful you could gain enough speed whilst still being able to hold the rope and steer.

    But thanks for being so concerned about my welfare.Wink

  • Sun, Apr 15 2012 11:21 In reply to

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    Re: Easy care sheep breeds

    henarar:

    welshnwilling:
    Cheeky buggers !

    all this comes when you get talked about in the press

    They build you up, then they knock you down, that's the price of celebrity WnW! At least you haven't let it go to you're head, and we'll still be here for you when it all comes crashing down around you!!
  • Sun, Apr 15 2012 11:53 In reply to

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    Re: Easy care sheep breeds

    bovril:
    henarar:

    welshnwilling:
    Cheeky buggers !

    all this comes when you get talked about in the press

    They build you up, then they knock you down, that's the price of celebrity WnW! At least you haven't let it go to you're head, and we'll still be here for you when it all comes crashing down around you!!

     Claude Alleston from near Sudbury was pushing 100 before he gave up keeping around 40 pedigree Texel ewes, so I think W&W has a few years to go yet. Without knocking easy-care ideas at all, with bit of planning and culling, you can dramatically reduce the effort spent looking after most breeds.  Others in the area used to help Claude with shearing, and to be honest, looking after sheep was his main pleasure in life, and he would have been lost without them.

     

  • Sun, Apr 15 2012 12:35 In reply to

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    I was thinking of his celebrity status rather than his stockmanship! I've yet to see a photo of WnW with no knickers on and a bacardi breezer in one hand stumbling out of Sugarhut at 3am into a limo, but I fear it may not be long coming!!
  • Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:46 In reply to

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    andy h:
    selling Dorper lambs is a premium market for me.
    By dorper sheep do you mean the African ones? Dorset horn crossed Persian i think it is? , may i ask how you get on with them?
  • Sun, Apr 15 2012 19:16 In reply to

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    Re: Easy care sheep breeds

    They are inclined toward foot problems on heavy clays, they are fine on chalk and apparently do well on hill farms, long season breeding sufficient wool for wintering with early shedding as soon as the weather warms up, if you don't dock the wethers, there is increased interest from the Asian as well as African communities who value the fat tailed breeds.

    The Dorper was developed from the Dorset horn/Black head persian for Karoo conditions with an export quality carcase, I started with the Wiltiper in my school days (Wiltshire horn/Persian) due to severe awn grass problems where we lived.

    http://sangacattle.webs.com/
  • Sun, Apr 15 2012 21:49 In reply to

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    We bought a Dorper ram to improve the conformation on our easycare's. His daughters will breed out of season, even ewe lambs will get in lamb very early i.e. born in March, lamb in January.
  • Mon, Apr 16 2012 7:41 In reply to

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    Re: Easy care sheep breeds

    welshnwilling:
    We bought a Dorper ram to improve the conformation on our easycare's.

     

    is the Dorper wool shedding too.

  • Mon, Apr 16 2012 8:23 In reply to

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    Re: Easy care sheep breeds

    Keep going like that and you could have lots in no time

  • Mon, Apr 16 2012 8:28 In reply to

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    cymro:
    is the Dorper wool shedding too.

    Yes and the ram has a body similar to a Texel but without the thick fleece

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