Watched some of the video auction yesterday, more on today(Superior).  Saw some amazing prices.  120 steers for May delivery weighing 780 at $131.50 per hundred, never saw cattle that big bring so much.  Saw some 825 weights bring $1.30.  Rare thing to have high priced corn and high priced feeder cattle at the same time.

Nice to see someone has some confidence anyway. I fear that if grain prices remain where they are it will all end in tears. Store prices are back in the UK, they need to be.

NO the fat price needs to go up

henarar:

NO the fat price needs to go up

Unfortunately that is one thing we have no control over, and that has to happen first before stores get dearer. Buying stores at high prices in the hope that fat prices will rescue you would be stupid.

Just as stupid as paying high prices for overpriced corn ?

I dont no we moan about the supermarkets but we all try to squeze the chap we buy from rather than the one we sell to

I shall have to look in to this to see who i can squeze i duno if they will respond to well though

So when you buy feed/meds/machinery etc you dont try to get the best price?

Be realistic, its a food chain and producers are at the bottom, store producers are at the bottom of the bottom. If it wernt for the SFP there would be no suckler cows and the hills would be scrub.

 feed, well cake we pay what they ask, all other feeds we try our luck, see how low we can go...

 meds, the bill gets paid what ever the bill asks- if its vets.... wormers, drenches, and prenters are attempted to be nagotiated on

machinery, well when we need something, we inquire, then say no, they drop, say no again, they drop the price again and then say yes.

(and i dont know if we're meant to mention your statment about SFP... tis a lil depressing, and put to the back of ones mind)

sfp is a safety net for more than suk cows without this there wouldnt be much corn at £70 a ton  yes i no its 200 now but that would be no good if you went bust a few years ago

I wonder if tesco will give a bit of discount? that will be fun to try

OH and sweet caroline reckons we are all makeing so much bloody money that we dont need the sfp anyway so thats ok

sfp doesnt benefit farmers, it just keeps landlords in gin, and their agents in twweed jackets.

it ensures a continual surplus, thereby driving prices ever lower for farmers.

if it was taken away, production would drop, and prices would rocket. and we could give 2 fingers to the rpa.

land prices would fall to a level we could afford, and rents would be halved (at least)

Glasshouse you really dont like landlords do you and i get on really well with mine oh i get the sfp by the way as all land users should

I have no problem with the ag subs going as long as everyones everywhere goes as well ill have a go at the job on a level playing field 

The problem if SFP goes is the transition between no money coming in from Gov and farming getting better and the invetments coming back in.

 Most farms will go bust in the 1st or 2nd year after SFP as they simply can not keep a family without SFP. Those with enough money,2nd job or a good bank might get through and see something out of it,But They will soon be run out of the countryside by Co-op's anf big farms that have the investment to buy up all available land  i.e barley barons, then you have the same problem as what subsisy and quotas were introduced for.

They will flood the market with cheap stuff and keep increasing the flood until the prices plummet, then say it wasnt their fault.

Then your Back to quotas and subsidy.