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Last post Fri, May 28 2010 11:55 by tiza. 5 replies.
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  • Thu, May 6 2010 21:49

    Monsanto in Europe, please help!!

    First of all, excuse my English, Im not good at it :(..

    The latest development in Greece and today's collapse of Dow Jones indexes, got me really worried that the European economy just might collapse :(, leaving me unable to feed my family! I live and work in Denmark.

    However I do own a little peace (aprox 100m x 50m) of very fertile land (in Bosnia) which might keep us alive in case of a total economical collapse. The land is located just by the river side, at the bottom of the woody mountain, so that the autumn rain fertilize it along with the spring snow melt down. The whole area gets over flooded, extending the river side.

     

    I have two questions plus a sub-question:

     

    1. Would 100m x 50m = 5000m2 be enough to feed 4 adults and perhaps one cow, by growing GMO soya and corn? (up the mountain side there are some plains where the grass grows, to steep for cultivation but the grass can be used to feed the cow, in addition to corn and soya)

          I was offered to buy additional land aprox. 3500m2 in extension to my own for a very cheap price (3€ per m2), should I do this before its too late?

     

    2. Is it possible to buy Monsanto products in Europe (if yes where) and which products should I go for, given that I wont be able to buy pesticides or fertilizers? In another words which Monsanto soya and corn products are most resistant and least demanding?

     

    Thanks in advance.

     

    Zlatko Killovicz Isakovicz

  • Sat, May 8 2010 6:21 In reply to

    Re: Monsanto in Europe, please help!!

     I think that is about an acre?  I doubt it would feed you and the cow unless that is some really incredible land with an incredible climate, but it might feed the four of you and some chickens. 

    If you can't buy pesticides and fertilizer, don't waste your money on GM soybeans, if you don't have much corn borer and rootworm problem don't waste it on GM corn either, conventional will work fine, with a hoe.  

    10500 Euro for about 3/4 of an acre sounds pretty high to me, but I don't know so I shouldn't comment.

  • Sat, May 8 2010 14:34 In reply to

    Re: Monsanto in Europe, please help!!

     Thanks a lot for the effort man, I really appreciate it, :)..

     

    So, basically what you are basic saying is that: GMO's are more disease resistant and able to tolerate higher concentrations of pesticides, but not necessarily provide higher yield, right?

     

    The land is ultra fertile, its located by the river side, between two artificial lakes (down steam aprox 2miles up stream aprox 7miles), furthermore its surrounded by mountains and hills which result in ultra high air-moister, coz of the lakes evaporation gets trapped in-between the mountains/hills. As the result of being placed at the button of the woody mountain side, the autumn rain fertilize it along with the spring snow melt down, by flushing down a lots of mud from the forest above. Furthermore the river is rich on algae (coz of the artificial lake up stream) which act as the fertilizer, given that you use the river to water your crops (so I've been told?).

     

     The climate is relative, it has the same degree of latitude as southern France/ northern Italy  (NY, MI, IA, WY).

     

    Currently the land is being cultivated by some poor gipsies (with my approval), they are growing green beans and yields aprox 1.6 - 2.4 kg/m2 (2.harvests) which equals 8-12 tons of green beans per acre (5000m2) without any fertilizers or pesticides! They use the river to irrigate the land. (sometimes the second harvest fails,that's why so big variation).

     

    Given the info above, are there any GMO's that I could benefit from, in form of greater yield?

     

    Thanks in advance, I might sound paranoid but I'm hoping for the best and preparing for the worst.

  • Sat, May 8 2010 20:31 In reply to

    • old mcdonald
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    Re: Monsanto in Europe, please help!!

    I think you should take some local advice. Talk to anybody you can, decide the questions you still have and come back.

    €3 per square metre is €30,000 for one hectare. That is incredibly expensive land.

  • Wed, May 12 2010 11:59 In reply to

    Re: Monsanto in Europe, please help!!

    30k per hectare?!?!?!?!?! I think someone is lifting your leg Mr K! Food shortages aren't THAT iminant. I would take Old M's advice!

    "Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us, but pigs treat us as equals." (Sir Winston Churchill)
  • Fri, May 28 2010 11:55 In reply to

    • tiza
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    Re: Monsanto in Europe, please help!!

    I take this thanks FW from your pages. I am personaly very happy the person concerned has resigned. How and why an action group with clear aims to stiffle GM where ever on the food standards committee goodness knows

    http://www.fwi.co.uk/Articles/2010/05/28/121470/FSA-accused-of-helping-GM-industry.htm

     

    As to Monsanto GM seed products in the old Yugoslavia I am sorry to say not a chance. The only place in Europe I know of with an active campagain against GM.by issuing state employees with roundup in knapsack sprayers. Spray crops they see. On return if not dead then big problems.

    Over the boarder here we used to have GM crops and wonderful they where too. Membership of the EU 3 years ago stopped it's legal usage. A quantum backward step. In both public health terms and cost of production when nigh on half the surface area is unfarmed.

    Oh and really good black chermodium soils are only 3000 Euro ha here.

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