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Last post Tue, Feb 23 2010 8:33 by Malcolm. 74 replies.
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  • Thu, Feb 18 2010 20:12

    • foxer
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    disposal of animals

    could anybody tell me the correct way  to dispose of animals that have died, ??

  • Thu, Feb 18 2010 22:35 In reply to

    • old mcdonald
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    Re: disposal of animals

    Depends on the animal. Your local council can tell you, but obviously you do not want to take the simple, easy way so you try yet again to get people to bite. If you are an angler (for fish) I would willingly correspond with you on that subject. People are usually buried or cremated. What do you want to get rid of? Your friendly neighbouring farmer? Your wife? Your dogs? Are those dogs in the photograph yours? You answer a few questions, and we will answer a few more. Except I would bet that you will catch at least 3 more fish on this hook. 

  • Fri, Feb 19 2010 18:22 In reply to

    • foxer
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    Re: disposal of animals

    say cows or sheep ? yes dogs are mine , how fine are they!!, i would like to guess that feeding them to a pack of hunting hounds is not the correct method ,, thats just a guess though??

  • Fri, Feb 19 2010 18:42 In reply to

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    On the contrary. Hunting kennals provide a vluable and perfectly legitimate way of disposing of dead stock. At least the carcase is not wasted by simply being incinerated. Much more environmentally friendly wouldn't you agree? Sorry to disapoint you but it was a bad guess!

    Oh, does this mean I've been hooked Old M?

    "Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us, but pigs treat us as equals." (Sir Winston Churchill)
  • Fri, Feb 19 2010 19:47 In reply to

    • foxer
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    Re: disposal of animals

    surely a dead roting animal should not be fed to hounds?, i really dont think that is the right , legal way to dispose of any dead livestock

  • Fri, Feb 19 2010 20:11 In reply to

    Re: disposal of animals

    Ahhhhh, yet again we see that you are failing to give us all the relevent information, and embelishing your story in order to increase the contoversey value of your latest fwi offering.

    Define "Dead, rotting animal"? If it is dead then it is also, by definition, rotting. The rotting process starts from the moment life ceases. This basic principle can be applied to everything from grass to sheep. So the beast may have only been shuffled off this mortal coil for a few short hours. And why shopuldn't the hounds be fed on this meat that would otherwise be waisted? Dogs will happily scavenge in the wild, so it wouldn't be unnatural for them to have a nibble of the carcase no matter how long it has been dead.

    This is all fairly academic of course. as the kennelman may be employed as a knacker man, it is his job to remove a corpse regardless of its stage of decomposition, the same as any other kind of knacker man. If it is not fit for the hounds to consume then it is his repsonsibility to dispose of it accordingly and not the responsibility farmer you seem so keen to... disagree with!

    So why is this not right or legal please? Perhaps you would be so good as to explain the correct legal interpretation from your own extensive experience?

    Fine dogs by the way. Dobermen are they?

    "Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us, but pigs treat us as equals." (Sir Winston Churchill)
  • Fri, Feb 19 2010 20:14 In reply to

    • madfish
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    Re: disposal of animals

     Fresh flesh is fed to hounds, its a natural feed for them, as long as the animal that the flesh had come from had not been anesthetized/put down using drugs. If i remember correctly it is fine, as long as the spinal cord and other parts (I believe brain and maybe other parts) are disposed of via the correct methods (incineration or similar).

     

    Sheep are generally not fed, calves, cattle (under 48 month old only though) and horses are often fed.

     

    and I guess thats 2/3 of us hooked now? only 1 more and you prediction will be correct Old Macdonald

  • Fri, Feb 19 2010 20:23 In reply to

    Re: disposal of animals

    the correct way to dispose of deadstock is to bury them where they fall. that way the nutrients which made them are returned to the soil, ready to grow another.

    anything else leads to soil impoverishment, quickly followed by farmer impoverishment.

  • Fri, Feb 19 2010 21:03 In reply to

    • foxer
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    Re: disposal of animals

    i believe the correct way is to incinerate them , yes some people will say they can be given to hounds etc , but the correct and legal way is to incinerate ,,

  • Fri, Feb 19 2010 23:20 In reply to

    Re: disposal of animals

    if you know the answer, why ask us?

  • Sat, Feb 20 2010 12:15 In reply to

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    It really doesn't matter a jot what you "believe" to be right, the facts remain, if the carcase is treated in the appropriate mannor it is perfectly legal feed it to hounds. End of story. Question answered. Fineto.

    "Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us, but pigs treat us as equals." (Sir Winston Churchill)
  • Sat, Feb 20 2010 12:19 In reply to

    Re: disposal of animals

    And glasshouse makes the 3! Old M, your prophesy has been fulfilled!

    "Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us, but pigs treat us as equals." (Sir Winston Churchill)
  • Sat, Feb 20 2010 19:19 In reply to

    • He his-self
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    Re: disposal of animals

     

    That's one tough troll you chaps have got there.

    A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything.
  • Sat, Feb 20 2010 20:18 In reply to

    Re: disposal of animals

    foxer:

    say cows or sheep ? i would like to guess that feeding them to a pack of hunting hounds is not the correct method ,, thats just a guess though??

    When one of our sheep meets an untimely death, we just give it to the local hunt kennels, so technically it is a correct method.

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  • Sat, Feb 20 2010 20:23 In reply to

    Re: disposal of animals

    foxer:
    i believe the correct way is to incinerate them

     

    What if you don't have an incinerator handy? Anyway seems a lot of trouble to get something incinerated, why not do the countryside a good deal and feed the hounds at the same time? 

    I may be another fish caught upon this line...

    ~Meggiewes~

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  • Sat, Feb 20 2010 20:58 In reply to

    • foxer
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    Re: disposal of animals

    so you are a hunt supporter???????????/

  • Sat, Feb 20 2010 21:34 In reply to

    • old mcdonald
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    Re: disposal of animals

    foxer, tread very, very carefully on this one. Meggiewes is a young lady still at school. If you use any of your previous profanities in a response you might well regret it. I am a long way away, but some other people are not.

    More questions for you. Why do you have such large dogs? In fact why do you have any dogs? Presumably for your personal gratification. That is usually why people have pets. How many have you? Four now I think from your previous posts, because the 5 months old pup (how big was it when your neighbour kicked it to death?) is now dead. How much, say a week, does it cost you to feed them? What do you feed them?  And frankly,whilst I do not condone live animals, people who keep snakes in captivity frequently feed them live mammals, generally mice, and I do not see the difference if you breed and feed kittens to your dogs as the man in New Zealand was recently prosecuted for doing.

    Do you allow your dogs to follow their natural instinct to run, hunt and kill their prey? If not, why not? Assuming you do not, how can you be so cruel as to keep such magnificent animals under conditions where they cannot display their natural behaviour?

  • Sat, Feb 20 2010 21:50 In reply to

    • old mcdonald
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    Re: disposal of animals

    Another few questions foxer, when do you work? You said elsewhere that you owned your own bar. Are you rich enough just to employ people and collect the takings? Where is this bar? If we introduce ourselves will we get a discount? You were keen enough to give us your friendly farming neighbour's details, so where and who are you? .

  • Sat, Feb 20 2010 22:34 In reply to

    • foxer
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    Re: disposal of animals

    dont think he is at school!!, the dogs have a varied diet,(odd farmer now and then) i would not give them raw dead animals if that is what you are getting at!!!, the dogs are pets and to protect my property, they have large fields to play in, you have missed your way in lfe you should have been in mi5,, lots of questions!!

  • Sat, Feb 20 2010 22:38 In reply to

    • Malcolm
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    Re: disposal of animals

     What do you feed your dogs on?

  • Sat, Feb 20 2010 22:46 In reply to

    • foxer
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    Re: disposal of animals

    biscuits and farmers

  • Sat, Feb 20 2010 22:56 In reply to

    • Malcolm
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    Re: disposal of animals

     That's not a sensible reply.

  • Sat, Feb 20 2010 22:58 In reply to

    • dogjon
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    Re: disposal of animals

     

    I'm amused that someone who proudly posts pictures of dogs whose ears were deliberately mutilated as puppies for cosmetic purposes is banging the animal welfare drum. Most vets here wont do it anymore. I'm sure the dobies in the pic are probably just part of foxers rich fantasy life but its still funny.

     

    Jon

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  • Sat, Feb 20 2010 23:04 In reply to

    • foxer
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    Re: disposal of animals

    i am not rich , and nothing is a fantasy, i work 7 days a week every week ,, ,,,

  • Sat, Feb 20 2010 23:14 In reply to

    • foxer
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    Re: disposal of animals

    not mentioned animal welfare ,, simply the rules on dead animals ,, if the rules say YOU CAN FEED THEM TO HOUNDS ETC ok no problem ,, butthat is not what i have been told !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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