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Friends of the Earth, the Soya Bean and it's role in Planet Frendly Farming.

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  • Mon, Mar 8 2010 9:35

    Friends of the Earth, the Soya Bean and it's role in Planet Frendly Farming.

    An Early Day Motion (EDM 194) is being proposed by George Andrews , Lib Dem MP for St Ives.

    I copy it here for your consideration.  Friends of the Earth are running a leaflet campaign to drum up support of the motion.

    EDM 194
     
    DEFORESTATION, CLIMATE CHANGE AND LIVESTOCK
    24.11.2009
    George, Andrew

    That this House notes that global livestock and animal feed production contributes 18 per cent. of global greenhouse gas emissions and is currently the most significant driver of biodiversity loss worldwide; further notes that the large-scale conversion of forests and other valuable habitats into croplands for the production of animal feeds such as soy for intensive livestock farming is a cause of particular concern; recognises the associated impacts on small farmers and communities in developing countries who are often forced off their land; urges the Government to undertake an assessment of the scale and impact of this trend and the UK's role in it, and to gauge whether the UK's livestock industry has become overly dependent on soy-based animal feed which has such an unwelcome and unsustainable impact upon the environment; and calls on the Government to bring forward the measures necessary to reduce the UK's impact on global greenhouse gas emissions and biodiversity loss from the livestock sector whilst avoiding the export of these impacts overseas and supporting a viable, sustainable and thriving UK farming industry.

    The FoE are distributing leaflets to the UK public asking them to promote their local MP's to sign the EDM in support of the motion becoming law.

    The FoE leaflet specifically mentions factory farming of meat and dairy and this sectors over reliance on soya bean meal as a protein source in the diets of meat and dairy animals which they claim is sourced from countries which have cleared forests and subsistence farmers off land to grow soya for animal feed.

    It is clear the FoE mean business to get the motion into law so are UK farmers willing to lose the magical soya bean meal or is there a counter campaign by any of the National faming, sector or trade organisations to make their views known? 

     

  • Mon, Mar 8 2010 9:56 In reply to

    • tiza
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    Re: Friends of the Earth, the Soya Bean and it's role in Planet Frendly Farming.

    As a soya bean grower. I have seldom read such tosh. Until one notes the involvement of FOE. One equally has to question what kind of moron is representing a SW livestock area.

    Maybe someone can come up with an alternative to soya meal in rations.At the same cost per unit of feed value. Given that it is a by product of soya oil.

  • Mon, Mar 8 2010 10:00 In reply to

    Re: Friends of the Earth, the Soya Bean and it's role in Planet Frendly Farming.

    Dont know FoE's friends, but I doubt many in the WTO would be overjoyed at the UK effectively blocking soy inports. I can hardly see South American soya growers being sad either. Are they going to ban inports of foreign meat fed thsi very same soya? Highly doubt it.

    Take the dough and stay real jiggy.
    Uh-huh.
  • Mon, Mar 8 2010 11:13 In reply to

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    Re: Friends of the Earth, the Soya Bean and it's role in Planet Frendly Farming.

    FOE is the major so-called environmental organisation in the world and, like many other huge organisations has become involved with issues of such magnitude that it does not understand the implications of its own policies.

    When a commercial organisation reaches a certain size its focus changes from service/product quality to sales figures and so chases volume at the expense of both service and margin. The same processes cause a charity to change its focus from its original objectives to increasing the numbers of members. (sales) It does this by prostituting itself to the political system and at the expense of its initial ethical base.

    Only a reduction in its income will cause it to return to less grandiose core activities. In my view it should receive NO money from the public purse whatsoever and individuals should cease to contribute.

    I say this against a background of my belief that the major NGO's and National Governments have now developed a cosy relationship whereby they connive (they call in consultation) between themselves at policies over which the general public have no say or genuine input.  They have, in effect become Oligopolies in the same way as Tesco, Waitrose, Wall Mart and Sainsburys are oligopolies. In these circumstance they 'pretend' at competition but in reality are anxious to maintain the status quo.

    For those readers who regard this contribution as Polemic. It is! However, do remember that polemic may represent the summary of a lengthy article.

     

  • Mon, Mar 8 2010 17:30 In reply to

    • old mcdonald
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    Re: Friends of the Earth, the Soya Bean and it's role in Planet Frendly Farming.

    The MP is quoting from the now rather aged (2004?) FAO report "Livestock's Long Shadow" with his 18%. More recent information suggests that is an incorrect figure and atmospheric methane is not as closely correlated with ruminant numbers as was once thought. A report from the FAO in 2008 went so far as to question the value of attempting to reduce ruminant methane output . Those opposed to livestock farming and meat eating like to ignore anything that contradicts LLS because it contains the highest "respected" figure. It seems from the goings on in the Welsh Assembly last week that they do not know about this more recent information either.

  • Mon, Mar 8 2010 17:46 In reply to

    Re: Friends of the Earth, the Soya Bean and it's role in Planet Frendly Farming.

    old mcdonald:
    atmospheric methane

    Yes Old McDonald and clearly the Artic shelf methane release formally considered stable but now showing signs of breaking down is going to make the ruminant methane look like the least of our worries.

    Has the NFU or anyone from the red meat/dairy sector put up a statement on this motion? Still looking for any sign of life? After all we wouldn't want the FOE to be wasting their funds and time?  Wink

  • Mon, Mar 8 2010 19:30 In reply to

    • old mcdonald
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    Re: Friends of the Earth, the Soya Bean and it's role in Planet Frendly Farming.

    Do not hold your breath. I do not understand why this report (first drawn to my attention on this forum by Jacobus - under Charlie Flindt I think) has not been seized upon right around the world by all livestock organisations.

  • Tue, Mar 9 2010 0:13 In reply to

    Re: Friends of the Earth, the Soya Bean and it's role in Planet Frendly Farming.

    The MP's name is Andrew George (not George Andrews) and I am stunned that a Cornish MP would table such a motion when he represents an area which is so dependant on livestock for, not only work and food, but also the landscape, which thousands of tourists flock to his constituency every year to enjoy! What a numpty!

    Has the man taken leave of his senses or are poloticians in general so keen to jump on a band wagon, any band wagon, that they don't care what they say anymore as long as someone will listen?

    There was a militant vegan on Jeremy Vine this afternoon telling us all we shouldn't eat any animal products at all. When asked if that included honey she said "yes, of course" but when pressed she had no clue why or how bees made honey or what they did with it, just that "they don't make it for us to eat". The fact that these woefully uneducated people get airtime is a real worry I think. I have no problem with non meat eaters, if thats how they choose to fuel their body then fine, but the fact that Joe Public can be influenced by someone who has no clue what they're talking about is a problem for this industry! I fear that is the situation we have here, someone with a loud voice but no one at the controls.

    "Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us, but pigs treat us as equals." (Sir Winston Churchill)
  • Tue, Mar 9 2010 0:33 In reply to

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    Re: Friends of the Earth, the Soya Bean and it's role in Planet Frendly Farming.

    from: Islands Independent community newspaper, Gulf Islands, British Columbia, Canada  (author Barbara Grimmer "Farmers' Stand")

    It’s the fastest way to sequester carbon, collect solar energy, and rebuild soil. Grazing is truly amazing.” Joel Salatin, Virginia farmer and author

    I tried to ignore the headlines a few years ago about cows contributing more to global warming than cars – and waited for the smoke to clear and the data to settle itself out. It didn't make intuitive sense, and when I was forwarded an email last week that insisted Gulf Island farms would need to get rid of cows and sheep and our pastoral life to combat climate change, that hit a little too close to home. The impacts attributed to livestock are based on incomplete information, since it is often forgotten that we are dealing with a system of interrelated biological processes. Efforts to stop global warming have been focused almost entirely on reducing emissions caused by man, not in taking existing carbon out of the atmosphere (a process known as carbon sequestration). Scientists are trying to unscramble the omelette and get the whole picture, while policy makers point fingers, but it is a race against time.

    According to BC's 2007 GHG (greenhouse gas) Emissions Inventory, transportation is the biggest emitter in our province at 36%. Agriculture is down at 3.4%, with 1% attributed to enteric fermentation by ruminants (cows mostly), and 0.5% to manure management. The world picture is different, with 10-14% of human-caused GHG from agriculture. But that is just the emissions, and the carbon cycle is just that – a cycle. Our forests, oceans and grasslands are carbon sinks, acting to absorb carbon. Although not included in most of the carbon-counting schemes, scientists have long been aware of grassland’s ability to capture or “sequester” carbon. The FAO made a presentation to COP15 requesting the inclusion of grasslands in carbon accounting, especially notable since 70% of the world's agricultural lands are pasture and grassland. Grass takes in carbon dioxide from the air, converting it to sugars by photosynthesis. Some of the resulting carbon compounds are transferred to the roots and released into the soil through the normal cycles of growth and decay. Cows on a grass diet produce more methane than those fed on cereal grains, but grasslands more than compensate. Some pasture plants, such as bird’s-foot trefoil, are known to reduce methane emissions. There are soil bacteria that oxidize methane as well. .The grass takes in carbon from the atmosphere; the animals trample the grass into the soil, where the carbon is absorbed; new grass sprouts and the process is repeated over and over again, absorbing more and more carbon. This management system has been attributed to African game rancher Allan Savory, who observed that soil is healthiest and best able to absorb carbon when grasslands are managed in a way similar to the natural cycles created by huge herds of hoofed animals feeding on and trampling grasses for short periods and then moving elsewhere to avoid predators. Savory calls his method “Holistic Management”, and it is successfully practised by many ranchers in BC, and in other regions of the planet.

    Converting croplands to pasture, which reduces erosion, effectively sequesters significant amounts of carbon. Grazing reduces the need for the fertilizers and fuel used by farm machinery in crop cultivation. Compared to cropland, perennial pastures used for grazing can decrease soil erosion by 80 percent and markedly improve water quality. According to the UN, “there is growing evidence that both cattle ranching and pastoralism can have positive impacts on biodiversity”. By improving our grasslands, improving our soils and our agricultural methods, and replenishing our forests we can do much to increase the uptake of excess atmospheric greenhouse gases, while reducing their emissions.

    The idea of soil sequestration is still under the radar, according to Soil Science Professor Chuck Rice of Kansas State University, a member of the IPCC panel who directs a joint project of nine American universities and the U.S. Department of Energy studying the potential for reducing greenhouse gases through agricultural practices. Because there is more carbon stored in the soil than in the atmosphere, improvements in managing the carbon in the soil would make big differences in the atmosphere. By adopting a wide range of carbon sequestration strategies, ranging from planting more trees to cultivating crops using sustainable and no-till agriculture (which minimizes plowing) to raising animals on grasslands instead of feedlots—more problems than climate change could be solved.

    Dr. Jan Coulter, a scientist and farmer in Scotland, was curious about her farm's carbon footprint, and produced software for farmers to calculate their own carbon footprint, and it is available free online as Cplan. Other countries have produced software, and the Canadian version – Holos – is currently being tested by various associations and farmers across Canada. I tried out Holos, putting in our farm's data and Stats Canada data from the 2006 Census on Agriculture, specifically for the southern outer Gulf Islands (Mayne, Galiano, Pender, Saturna and their accessory islands). In the southern outer Gulf Islands, we had 89 farms according to the 2006 census – almost 3000 ha attributed to farming; about 1300 ha of that pasture, 250 ha hay, 365 ha crop, and 1055 ha forest. We had 454 cattle and calves, 1447 sheep, 89 goats, 2526 poultry. Even without counting the sequestering effect of the farms' forests, the effect of livestock was negated by the carbon uptake of the land. Not only can our farmers relax at the fact that we are balanced and carbon neutral, but there is room to use our farms in sequestering carbon and perhaps provide some solutions for the future. The Holos program gives suggestions on what changes could be made on your farm to improve carbon storage and reduce emissions. Improvements of 40-80% can be achieved by planting trees, reducing animal stocking rates and reducing nitrogen fertilizer. Smaller improvements (20-40%) can be achieved by improving the diet of livestock, improving nitrogen efficiency, manure management and changing the farm's cultivation practices. Farmer testimonies have been positive – the programs are simple to use, and give the farmer a concrete value for his farm's emissions and sinks, suggestions to improve the net result that are both reasonable but also profitable in the long run. Farmers can make slight changes using the program and model “what if” situations for their own farm. Further improvements to these programs are ongoing.

    Viewing the world holistically will allow us to see that the best way to fix climate change is to involve the earth in the solution. The best way to unscramble the omelette is to feed it back to the hen, and let her lay a new egg. We certainly can't do it alone.



    If farmers are empowered by knowing and understanding how their own carbon footprint is calculated they will be in a better position to influence policy and implement change without it being imposed upon them.”

    Dr. Jan Coulter, developer of Cplan

  • Wed, Mar 10 2010 17:42 In reply to

    Re: Friends of the Earth, the Soya Bean and it's role in Planet Frendly Farming.

    Had a quick shuftie at the CPlan website mentioned in bccanada's 'contribution' post. The founders of this site are Drew and Jan Coulter, practicing farmers who wanted to see what their carbon footprint was all about and developed this tool to help them understand what they were doing and how they could influence their scores.

    I'd be interested to know if any other farmers on this forum have used this or for that matter any other carbon calculation tool and what their findings have been especially if they are livestock producers?

    For any of you interested, here's a link to Cplans website.

    http://www2.cplan.org.uk/index.php?_load=page&_pageid=5
  • Wed, Mar 10 2010 20:02 In reply to

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    Re: Friends of the Earth, the Soya Bean and it's role in Planet Frendly Farming.

    I have done simulations before and tried this one today. This one is very simple to complete (the freebie) and it would be useful for anyone who is interested and considering a change of land use for some parts of the farm.

    The results are not comparable for me, because others take into account a personal footprint as opposed to a farm one. Being a committed meat eater and heavy consumer of dairy products I tend to come out rather high on the "greenie" type simulations.

  • Wed, Mar 10 2010 21:27 In reply to

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    Re: Friends of the Earth, the Soya Bean and it's role in Planet Frendly Farming.

     bccanada, when biologist Alan Savory started the environmental management systems that became what is now known as Holistic Management, his concern was for the deteriorating environment in what was then Rhodesia, as the system developed mistakes made and learned from, many other benefits became apparent, I have used the system in Africa, and the USA with very positive results, the holistic website is on my tagline, it makes interesting reading for any land manager, with free newsletters and information available by post.

    Holistic managment for a better future.
    http://www.holisticmanagement.org/
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