hi can anyone or does anyone no how i can road register my compact tractor for the road thanks

only way i know to is app;ying to dvla so you can get a logbook,reg plate etc

 What brand of tractor is it? If by any chance it is chinese the best bet is to register on a Q plate.

hi yes it is an import i use it for paddock maintenance. and some of my jobs it is not worth loading it on a trailer so i would like to drive it to some jobs i think i might have to gather all my paper work and commit to spendind a day at a dvla office (oh joy) thanks anyway

You should be able to get  Q reg for the tractor. As to licence, you are entering a mine field. Get on Customs and Excise or DVLA web site's to see what you need to register the tractor under. What you may think is agricultural work may not be.

A friend of mine had a tractor stopped, dipped and impounded this week as he was using it to mow sports pitch's on red diesel. It seems it should have been taxed as a' off road tractor' and run on derv . He may even need an Operators licence as well. 

Farmers Weekly have written articles in the past that may help you 

 

thats interesting thanks. i think this is going to be a headache

boveyfarmer:

You should be able to get  Q reg for the tractor. As to licence, you are entering a mine field. Get on Customs and Excise or DVLA web site's to see what you need to register the tractor under. What you may think is agricultural work may not be.

 

We are having that problem with our telehandler according to their website it can be one dvla person said we could but passed it on to a different department. That was after going to the local office them tell us we couldn't and saying it wasn't them it was what they were told by Swansea. Contacted Swansea and they said the opposite it was up to the local office but go in to it more since then. Still waiting from the tax department though.

hi i can not see why dvla have to make it so hard to do a simple thing. i am going to go down to my local dvla office but i am 1oo% sure i,m going to come out of there totally despondent.also i,m not sure if i should be using red diesel i tow the tractor to jobs and generally just do paddock maintenance but it seems confusing on the websites if i come under the category of being able to use it.

Not sure if it helps but I was recently sent this by the DVLA

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To qualify for the agricultural tax class a vehicle must meet the

definition within VERA of either an agricultural tractor, an off road

tractor, a light agricultural vehicle or an agricultural engine.

 

An agricultural tractor is used on public roads solely for purposes

relating to agriculture, horticulture, forestry or

a) cutting verges bordering public roads;

b) cutting hedges or trees bordering public roads or bordering verges

which border public roads.

Agricultural tractors are restricted in what they haul whilst

travelling along the public road.

 

An off road tractor means a tractor which is not an agricultural

tractor and which is designed and constructed primarily for use

otherwise than on road, and is incapable by reason of its construction

of exceeding a speed of twenty five miles per hour on the level under

its own power.

 

A light agricultural vehicle means a vehicle which has a revenue weight

not exceeding 1,000kg, is designed and constructed so as to seat only

one driver, is designed and constructed for use otherwise than on roads

and is used solely for purposes relating to agriculture, horticulture or

forestry.

 

An agricultural engine is taken to be a machine specially designed or

permanently converted to perform an agricultural operation on the land

and which is so constructed that it cannot be used on roads for any

purpose other than proceeding to and from the site of agricultural

operation. There must be also be something inherently agricultural about

the vehicle itself and not just its use. Vehicles such as combine

harvesters, crop sprayers and self propelled manure spreaders are

clearly vehicles designed specifically for agricultural operations and

probably cannot be used for much else.

 

The limited use taxation class applies to any vehicle that is used

solely for agricultural horticultural or forestry purposes and where use

on the road does not exceed 1.5km each trip between different areas of

land occupied by the same person.

 

Material handlers can be licensed in a number of different taxation

classes. To license in the Agricultural Machine tax class a vehicle must

meet the definition within VERA of either an agricultural tractor, an

off road tractor, a light agricultural vehicle or an agricultural

engine. Material handlers do not meet any of these definitions.

 

In the 2001 Budget, when VED for agricultural vehicles was abolished,

the Chancellor gave the farmers and agricultural machine industry a

commitment to review the position for agricultural vehicles that caused

classification difficulties. The culmination of this review resulted in

an announcement by the Chancellor in November 2001 that with effect from

1 January 2002 an additional category of vehicle would fall within the

agricultural machine taxation class and would attract a nil rate of

duty. To qualify for this exemption vehicles have to meet the following

criteria:

 

· Designed for off road use; and

· Designed to lift and load; and

· Used solely in connection with agriculture, horticulture or

forestry.

 

This commitment was not put into legislation but has been administered

on an extra-statutory basis since January 2002.

 

At that time DVLA consulted with the National Farmers Union, the

Agricultural Engineers Association and agricultural manufacturers to

notify them of these changes. Infor

 

Prior to these changes material handlers would have been licensed in

the Special Vehicle, Heavy Goods Vehicle (HGV) or Private Light Goods

(PLG) taxation classes depending upon their construction and use.

 

Now in my case I would have though a material handler could be classed as either of the highlighted parts. But they just before the last highlighted part says they can be. Then go on to quote the last bit which I would have though described a material handler to a tee.

Also I can do is suggest pestering them, as per the red diesel I would suggest the HM revenue & customs but you'll probably get more of a useful responce from your insurers or NFU Mutual.

 

 Just been to the local DVLA Office. The woman I saw was a lot nicer. has Filled in the log book etc so that once the inspector has been out to check its ok then they can send it straight off.

sounds good i,ll be glad to get that far

 

U MENTION U TOW TRACTOR ON ROAD I HOPE ITS ON A TRAILER  AS IF WHEELS ARE ON TARMAC YOU NEED IT REGISTERED AND TAXED DESPITE THE FACT U ARE TOWING IT WITH LICENCED VEHICLE     [BEEN STOPPED BY COPS    THEN DVLA / VOSA OFFICER AND HEALTH AND SAFETY GET INVOLVED  B---DY  NIGHTMARE  .        NOT A NICE EXPERIENCE TOWING HOME JCB . ]

yes being a compact weighing only 1.5 tons i have a 3.5 ton flat bed it sits on.

I do a lot of Golf Course and Sports pitch work, the tractors are taken to site on a trailer or truck now.

The extra cost is passed on to the customer.

Not long ago this work was considered as horticultural, so you could drive there on red on Ag tax.

dvla are useless. tried to get a reg plate for a terex tele handler got a letter from dealer saying whan was first refistered and relevant information but that wasnt enough got the build certificate as a faxed copy and as it wasnt original they wouldnt except and they also think it is an import even tho it was built in the uk and and has never left the country. after trying about 5 times we gave up on trying to register it. dvla and dsa both useless!

thanks but do you think that recreation grounds would come under the same category as paddock work. it seems to be a minefield specially were red derv is concerned as soon as work slows up a bit i am going to take a trip to my local dvla office and see if i can get the tractor registered and get a clearer picture where i stand useing red

Horsey culture is not agriculture, so i think it best to assumme you need to use derv.

 

This is a minefield, classic tractor did a good article in their April 2008 issue regarding red diesel, basically recreation ground work which is not agriculturally related using red diesel is a big no-no, also the tractor would need to be registered in the PLG class if used without a trailer or in the General Haulage class if used with a trailer. However if doing grass management work e.g. spraying,topping,cultivation or haymaking on grassland that is used for livestock or horses then you can use red in an agricultural class tractor as long as the grass is used for fodder, you are not expected to know what animals are likely to use the grass. Also in the article it states that there is a Memorandum of Agreement which you should be able to get from the naac.co.uk website or the hmrc.co.uk website, it says locate the "search" box enter "fuel for road vehicles"  and when the results appear click on the first link at the top of the list, obviously this article is over a year old so maybe out of date.

In the July 2009 classic tractor issue there is an article about registering tractor, obviously this relates to old tractors but it could be useful. It says for a tractor with a chassis vin plate but no registration plate or log book then apply for an age related plate, £55, Provide 4 or 5 good photos including chassis plate plus front, back and side of tractor. Also you'll need to show your passport or drivers licence, utility bill and insurance details. A DVLA recognised club specialist must provide documentary evidence linking the chassis number to the original date of manufacture, although in your case perhaps you could get the person you bought the tractor from to help or your friendly local tractor dealer who sells new tractors so will know all the ins and outs about getting a registration mark for your tractor.

Good luck,

thanks for that very interesting so it looks as though i am safe to use red it just the registration i have to sort out.

What you need to bear in mind is that the DVLA require the ORIGINAL import document for any imported tractors, unfortunately for us the supplier had several tractors on the same import sheet and thus they did not want to give us the sheet and DVLA would not accept a photocopy. As a result of this our tractor was put on a Q-plate.I have since upgraded from the unreliable chinese tractor to a bulletproof John Deere 2850.

Also I help out a lot of equestrian people locally and I legally use red diesel for pasture topping, grass harrowing and fertiliser spreading.

JD 6820

 Just thought I'd say we had the visit from the DVLA inspector he came out had a little chat and look around the telehandler and agreed. He said that we should hear from the local office by next week. He certainly seems to cover a fair sized area as he covers 3 counties. 

He said trouble can arise as the government and the DVLA like things to fit neatly in to a box and so have a list of machines and where they go if they have trouble with one it gets put in the special purposes category.

Also I was wondering what the situation is reguarding the use of red deisel in a tractor to transport your own animals to market.

sjk:

Also I was wondering what the situation is reguarding the use of red deisel in a tractor to transport your own animals to market.

The article I quoted also states that:-  "Tractors licensed as agricultural machines and running on red diesel on the public road may only transport agricultural, horticultural or forestry produce to a place where it is to be consolidated, processed or sold, where this is accepted as being incidental to an agricultural, horticultural or forestry operation. If the distance travelled exceeds 24km you are likely to require a restricted operators licence. The parties to the memorandum have agreed that exemption from the requirement to hold an operators licence is a reasonable indication of whether such transportation can be considered to be incidental to the agricultural operation, but each case should be determined in the light of individual circumstances. Consideration should always be given to using other forms of transport where practical." 

In this context it would seem that incidental means journeys that are of a brief duration or infrequent occurance.