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Last post Thu, Feb 9 2012 12:01 by Peter Wells. 23 replies.
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  • Mon, Jan 2 2012 12:44

    Sheep profligacy

    Scanned out our flock on Friday. 136%. Not bad for Southdowns although most of our Badger-Faced came up empty (different ram).

    How's everybody else doing? 

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  • Mon, Jan 2 2012 20:56 In reply to

    Re: Sheep profligacy

     195% Suffolk mules, just started lambing with them at the moment

  • Fri, Jan 13 2012 11:50 In reply to

    • mann
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    Re: Sheep profligacy

    perry6420:

     195% Suffolk mules, just started lambing with them at the moment

    Thats a good number. What methods do you use?

  • Fri, Jan 13 2012 19:36 In reply to

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    Flush them well and plenty of rams
  • Sat, Jan 14 2012 15:33 In reply to

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    First 4 just lambed all twins lets see if we can keep that up!
  • Sat, Jan 14 2012 19:07 In reply to

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    scanned about a month ago now, ended up with 186%, sorry to hear about your badgers-faced, i have six i keep with the flock, they make the best tasting lamb in my opinion,
  • Sat, Jan 14 2012 20:14 In reply to

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    are theses spendthrift sheep>

  • Sat, Jan 14 2012 20:20 In reply to

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    you meant prolifacy yes?

  • Sat, Jan 14 2012 21:34 In reply to

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    Re: Sheep profligacy

    glasshouse:

    you meant prolifacy yes?

    I doubt it. He may have meant prolificacy though. Personally, I rather liked the image of profligate sheep.
  • Sun, Jan 15 2012 0:00 In reply to

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    i have been outsmartalexed!

  • Sun, Jan 15 2012 20:13 In reply to

    • old mcdonald
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    Re: Sheep profligacy

    glasshouse, Prolificacy is probably the most difficult word for people to remember and write correctly, although everybody seems to know what it is and means. I too liked the idea of profligate sheep. I do believe I have owned more than my share of those.

  • Thu, Jan 19 2012 20:11 In reply to

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    Our Cotswolds did 140%, quietly happy with that as most of the twins were in our older ewes. Start around the 7th of Feb'. Then we'll start counting the chickens...........
    hareley farmer:

    Scanned out our flock on Friday. 136%. Not bad for Southdowns although most of our Badger-Faced came up empty (different ram).

    How's everybody else doing? 

  • Fri, Jan 20 2012 5:43 In reply to

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    Scanning is not available to us (Romania) but the prolificacy of my Dorpers, which gave birt until now, is about 170%. Not bad, isn't it?

    "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets." Matthew 7:12 (The King James Version)
  • Fri, Jan 20 2012 19:17 In reply to

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    Scanned easy-cares today at 150 %. Quite happy with that as they weren't flushed before tupping, just straight off the hill and tupped on some poorish ground.
    West is Best !
  • Fri, Jan 20 2012 20:30 In reply to

    • BrownCow
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    Re: Sheep profligacy

    176% not flushed,  80% of singles were 80% the suffolk X ewes so not trying that again. Main breeding is welsh mule x dorset horn.  

    Do as you would be done by.
  • Thu, Jan 26 2012 10:46 In reply to

    • dylanbeefy
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    Re: Sheep profligacy

    We have pedigree texels and this year we scanned at 190%, a jump of just under 50% as compared to the last two years, where we have hovered at just over 140%. All ewes were sponged this year (but a large portion were sponged the last two years as well), and I would say that the ewes probably had better grass and conditions to be flushed on this year, but this year for the first time we used Se/I boluses just before tupping, do you think this would make that much of a difference, or is it just a combination of having better pasture and a bit of luck?

    It is worth noting that even though our scanning is up by almost 50%, we actually have less triplets and no quads this year, just a lot lot more twins. I just hope we have a good lambing!!

  • Thu, Jan 26 2012 20:05 In reply to

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    Sounds like a near perfect scanning to me.  Perfection would be all twins and no triplets/quads!!

    I'd say the Se/I bolus could increase  lambing percentage by 20% depending on what level of Se/I you're starting from, splitting the other 30% fairly equally between more grass and luck.

    With sheep a bit of luck is always usefull!!

  • Fri, Jan 27 2012 15:26 In reply to

    • dylanbeefy
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    Re: Sheep profligacy

    As I have been quickly reminded today it's not how many you scan it's how many you manage to keep alive for selling/breeding etc! Just lost a set of twins with an ewe aborting two large lambs about 17 days before time (let's hope it's not this schmallenburg thingy!), to compound the set of triplets that were inside  a ewe which had a terrible prolapse and had to be put down a few weeks ago!! That scanning % soon gets affected when you only have 34 ewes!!

    Oh the joys of farming!

  • Fri, Jan 27 2012 22:06 In reply to

    • old mcdonald
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    Re: Sheep profligacy

     dylanbeefy, My sentiments exactly. My view of lambing percentages was always - Number of ewes tupped x number of lambs sold + number of ewe lambs retained for breeding. It is never, ever the number of lambs born alive. Anything dying after 31st December is counted as a loss and not a reduction of lambing %age.

  • Sat, Jan 28 2012 6:23 In reply to

    • lorifulton
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    Re: Sheep profligacy

    Everybody is going on quite well with this!!!
  • Wed, Feb 1 2012 20:01 In reply to

    • topdog
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    Re: Sheep profligacy

    Just scanned today, 115 NE mules were at 193%, 286 swales put to leic tup 168% and 200 swales put to swale tup were 135% ish. Pleased with mules and with older swales but disappointed with the young swales.
    "There is no good flock without a good shepherd and no good shepherd without a good dog"
  • Thu, Feb 2 2012 20:52 In reply to

    • stapler
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    Re: Sheep profligacy

    I can beat you all, my Bleu De Maine cross ewes scanned at 217% except for about 30 which forced the pen open and got away. Not many singles but quite a lot of triplets so we will be kept busy. The better ewes will go out with 3 lambs if they are all the same size. The triplet ewes are on turnips and mollasses, they look well, start to lamb them mid march.

  • Thu, Feb 2 2012 21:00 In reply to

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    stapler:
    except for about 30 which forced the pen open and got away

    How do you know they weren't all barreners ? Wink

    Good luck with the lambing, hope the weather's on your side. You'll need it with all those lambs.

    West is Best !
  • Thu, Feb 9 2012 12:01 In reply to

    • Peter Wells
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    Re: Sheep profligacy

    Dorset Down.

      • No barreners
      • 176%. (of which 6% are triplets)
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