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So what does the Farming Community want from the Next Government.

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  • Sun, Mar 14 2010 3:27

    • john kirby
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    So what does the Farming Community want from the Next Government.

    Talking to people, getting their views, is a good way of gathering information. If, the farming community has a whole was going to "Present the Seven" What seven wants and wishes do you want? or the opposite, What seven do you want to stop or get rid off?
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  • Sun, Mar 14 2010 8:39 In reply to

    Re: So what does the Farming Community want from the Next Government.

    1.tax on red deisel

    2tax on white deisel

    3.sepa

    4. vat

    5.paye

    6.rollover relief

    7.all trusts

  • Sun, Mar 14 2010 13:32 In reply to

    Re: So what does the Farming Community want from the Next Government.

     

    Glasshouse,

                     I presume they were your WANTS.

    My wants:

               1]  Freedom from Socialism. Adopt controlled Capitalism.

               2]  The Ability of the Electorate to sack any MP at any time and call for a byelection.

               3]   Rates to be abolished  and any other Tax on a job.

               4]   Get out of the EU and set up Trading arrangments with North and South America.

               5]  Install a system of Local Income Tax structured so that small Business paid different rates to Large Turnover Businesses.

               6]  Abolish Quangoes.

               7]  Impeach Blair.  

  • Sun, Mar 14 2010 14:52 In reply to

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    Re: So what does the Farming Community want from the Next Government.

    Burocrat Basher.

     Couldnt agree more with your posting, less communism ,more capitalism and more freedom.

    Dick

  • Sun, Mar 14 2010 15:01 In reply to

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    Re: So what does the Farming Community want from the Next Government.

    The point is will Mr Cameron deliver freedom or is he full of the same bull**t as the rest of our political parties. My concern is that he is so tied up to the EU that he will probably continue to oversee the destruction of our national independence. I watch with horror at the Tory party and their attempts to socialise the conservative agenda, it is hard to distinguish between the policies pursued by Tony Blair and Mr Cameron, mores the pity. Until we return the sovereignty of the UK to the UK parliament we will be subject to the whims of the commies who are running the EU.

    Dick

  • Sun, Mar 14 2010 19:48 In reply to

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    Dick,

            I am three score years now and I am ashamed of what this Administration has done to this Green and prosperous Land,However I look at the Tories and I do not see what I want as an Administration for this Land, sorry!

  • Sun, Mar 14 2010 19:49 In reply to

    Re: So what does the Farming Community want from the Next Government.

    yes, sorry, i meant scrap them all.

  • Sun, Mar 14 2010 19:54 In reply to

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    Glasshouse,

                     You are slipping into mediocracy, get a grip man, Those Slick talking Politicans in Edinburgh will have you over ! ! !

  • Sun, Mar 14 2010 20:04 In reply to

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    Re: So what does the Farming Community want from the Next Government.

    Nowt to do with me at present, but I like bb's list.

  • Sun, Mar 14 2010 22:17 In reply to

    Re: So what does the Farming Community want from the Next Government.

    bb, not quite with you???

  • Mon, Mar 15 2010 8:41 In reply to

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    Re: So what does the Farming Community want from the Next Government.

    just to be left alone 7 days in a row would be nice fat chance though

  • Mon, Mar 15 2010 13:12 In reply to

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    Re: So what does the Farming Community want from the Next Government.

    henarar:

    just to be left alone 7 days in a row would be nice fat chance though

    I took a day off yesterday, and look at all I missed, but this is a good point, it is hard to keep within the rules and regulations, if they change daily, as a businessperson, you just feel you are under constant attack or deadline. It came out over the weekend Lehman Brothers were trading whilst insolvent, and deliberately covering it up, lets see what happens to the directors there, because if you or I, did it, we would be banned from being company directors.
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  • Mon, Mar 15 2010 18:13 In reply to

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    Re: So what does the Farming Community want from the Next Government.

    Glasshouse and BB have got jolly good lists with which I agree and I also like the idea of less government.

    From the next government, I really would like to see a full six year period of dynamic inaction.

     

  • Mon, Mar 15 2010 18:43 In reply to

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    Re: So what does the Farming Community want from the Next Government.

    I have been trying to think of what the question means, presumably it involves the next Westminster government so that rules out agriculture, healthcare, planning, energy policy etc etc for us Scots. There are small parts of those that Westminster can influence for us so I will try to concentrate on the relevant areas. 1 Scottish ministers to have direct access to Brussels agricultural negotiations. 2 Fuel tax, where no alternative transport systems exist that can provide journey times of double air travel duration, air passenger duty abolished. 3 An end to the obstruction and delay in handing over full control of animal health issues. 4 Action on TB. Deal with it now. English TB is a threat to Scottish agriculture. 5 An end to delay on electricity grid installations, particularly undersea cables. 6 Science to be at the heart of national policy. 7 Reform of the system of government. Calman implemented and respect for Scotland and its people from all parties.
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  • Mon, Mar 15 2010 18:56 In reply to

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    Re: So what does the Farming Community want from the Next Government.

    I still think it was disgusting the Scotland did not have a place at Copenhagen, and I fully agree with you, that Scottish ministers have to get direct access to Brussels' agricultural negotiations, on point five, our national infrastructure (or is it international between England and Scotland) needs to be invested in. Thank you for taking the time to reply
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  • Mon, Mar 15 2010 22:52 In reply to

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    Re: So what does the Farming Community want from the Next Government.

    I suggest that Scotland be given independence, that the Scottish people no longer have representation in Westminster, and every Scot and their descendents living in England be forcibly repatriated to Scotland and their lifestyle supported by their brethren there!

    Then perhaps we'll be rid of the Scottish mafia in Westminster.

  • Tue, Mar 16 2010 5:53 In reply to

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    Re: So what does the Farming Community want from the Next Government.

    1. Nothing but a total annihilation of Gordon Brown and his socialist infiltration is acceptable.

    2. A stronger right-wing Britain to influence a European Market of otherwise independent countries,  or consider alternative trading.

    3. A reversal of the desire for an independant Scotland. (At the moment SNP have some reasonable policies, especially in agriculture, but this is to be expected from a Government in evolution and which is being compared with the appalling mess at Westminster).

    4. A strong right-wing Government in Westminster to redress the tax and squander mentality in this country and rebuild the Nation again both financially and politically.

    5. A Department of Agriculture in its own right.

    6. A new constitution which sets out rights (or should it be writes) for the business management and trading as well as these given to the business employment and get rid of this scurge between worker and management which is so negative to the British work environment.

    7. A new constitution which returns more sense of responsibility to each person.

    These should come with more freedom and less Government.

    Malcom, I fully sympathise with your view and often wonder why there has not been an uprising from the South. I cannot condemn Scots for voting for their Socialist candidate but I do think the English are allowing these Scots to dominate Westminster. We must both get rid of them.

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  • Tue, Mar 16 2010 8:45 In reply to

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    Re: So what does the Farming Community want from the Next Government.

    Wow, Number 5 - imagine if it was the only thing they had to do, all that time on their hands, and I thought the interference was bad enough now...........!!!!
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  • Tue, Mar 16 2010 9:00 In reply to

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    Re: So what does the Farming Community want from the Next Government.

    Malcolm I presume your comment is some sort of joke. If not such racist rants have no place on a public forum. Ally short of extermination of a majority (assuming a tory government) of your fellow countrymen and women your no 3 wish looks unobtainable. Empire loyalists had to remain in Ireland and the US after independence, no need to panic you will still be welcome. As to the free market right wing policies desired I note that those asking for them are careful to exclude SFP and agriculture from the wish list. Highly amusing from the unsubsidised business I have. The effect of direct Chinese and Indian competition on UK wage rates will be fascinating to observe. I wonder how long SFP would last in such a scenario? Bring it on I say, I am doing it now. Lets see how you like it ;-)
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  • Tue, Mar 16 2010 10:54 In reply to

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    Malcolm, it was england who voted blair in in 1997, so you got what you deserved and voted for. I well remember the farmers who said they would vote labour "for a change".

    If you are going to repatriate all scots to scotland, we would be pleased to reciprocate. I presume from your rants that you are a tory, but they are the biggest obstacle to scottish independence. No doubt they realise that scottish oil is keeping the uk afloat, quite literally, as uk  plc has a large hole below the waterline.

  • Tue, Mar 16 2010 18:15 In reply to

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    Re: So what does the Farming Community want from the Next Government.

    john kirby:
    Wow, Number 5 - imagine if it was the only thing they had to do, all that time on their hands, and I thought the interference was bad enough now...........!!!!

          John, my hope is that an agricultural department would be able to concentrate on the essentials for putting our agriculture where it should be, where it once was, at the top of the Rural agenda. British agriculture has so much to offer the country it is criminal the way these idiots in Westminster are treating it.

           He his self, I do think you have a bit of a chip on the shoulder about the old Empire and racism. I do not feel like looking back but concentrating on the way ahead. I am sorry, but I feel that an independent Scotland is not for the better. It is not that I think we could not do it. Of course, we could. But we would be far better to take the rest of UK with us, if I may put it that way. I do think that the separatists are too quick to through away what we have rather than build on it. I also strongly feel that the pathetic direction which the last ten years of Socialism has put the country in makes a separate Scotland more appealing. We have to rise above all that. If a really good Government was to get going in Westminster I think there would be a swing away from separatism here. If you are a Socialist then I can understand that you will see it from a different view than I do. - I have to go.

     

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  • Tue, Mar 16 2010 20:08 In reply to

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    Re: So what does the Farming Community want from the Next Government.

    Ally you have lot to learn about racism and its effects on myself and family, best to say unless you have lived through the worst of it you do not know how lucky you are to think a chip would cover it. As to the politics, the Scottish government is the SNP. A fact that still causes denial and fear of change. Devolution means most of the sound and fury in the UK general election is "except Scotland" eg health care policy "except Scotland" planning "except Scotland" ag policy "except Scotland" local government "except Scotland" All that we have to comment on are foreign policy, defence and benefit rates. As Scotland is such a tiny part of the UK and World economy we have no say whatever in broad economic and monetary policy. UK elections are won and lost in a few dozen seats in England, decided by a few hundred thousand voters. If and when "respect" Dave or "Calman" Gordon get in we may have even less to comment on. Change is coming to the UK, to Scotland and to agriculture. I am looking forward to it.
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  • Tue, Mar 16 2010 20:12 In reply to

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    Ally R, I admire your ideals, but agriculture will never feature in westminster the way it does in holyrood, unless there is a war or famine.

    I am fundamentally opposed to landlordism, so i wont vote tory. I never have, and never will vote labour. So it is a straight choice between snp and liberal. But the liberals have no backbone.

    Fuel taxes are the one thing that has made me vote snp.

    £1.20 a litre may be right for essex, but not for scotland.

  • Thu, Mar 18 2010 8:23 In reply to

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        He his-self, thank you for your detailed post there. I have been on the Forum long enough to know that you have a really nice family and I have enjoyed reading about you all on some of your earlier posts. I am therefore saddened that you have been subject to racial abuse and can assure you that I would give you my full support against any such racism. As you say, you really do have to face the reality of some situations to fully understand them. I don't want to continue on a personal note on a public Forum except to say that we must not gag or prejudice sensible debate on the subject. Sorry, I'll have to go again.

        

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  • Thu, Mar 18 2010 10:58 In reply to

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    Re: So what does the Farming Community want from the Next Government.

    john kirby:
    "Present the Seven" What seven wants and wishes do you want? or the opposite, What seven do you want to stop or get rid off?

    I have spent a while looking at this, and i am guessing it is based on the seven wonders of the world concept.

    1. A government that "governs" less by spurious use of targets

    2. Gets out of other people's affairs, and first to demonstrate this withdraws troops from Afganistan.

    3. Promotes all science in a balanced, non politicized fashion i.e puts money in and leaves it to others to decide

    4. Not use climate change as an excuse to tax us more. (It is all your fault that you use fossil fuels so we have to tax it to save the whales and polar bears - then provide no alternatives.)

    5. I want to see a government that uses climate change as an excuse to promote change by taxing certain things in life less a lot less

    6. I want a government to devlove real power away from London, and trust their people more

    7. I want a government to provide leadership in research on agriculture, not obfuscate around "environmental" as being agriculture, as it just ain't so.

    because 4 and 5 are the same I am going to ask that education is used less to promote government ideology and educates ypungsters for a bright future.

    Finally I do hope that it is a hung parliament and they therefore have to do their job for the first time in a generation, instead of having this elected dictatorship that has been in place since 1979. A cabinet of elected MP's not a collection of "Lords" doing just as they like.

    Farming is for us, all.
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