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    fordtractor7740fordtractor7740
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    Hi,

    I’m 12 in a few months and I was wondering how old you have to be to work on a farm. I know you have to be 13 or 14 to use machinery with permission but i want to just know how old you have to be to work on a farm normally. I want to know this because my Nan and Grandad have been farming for their whole life and I help up there if I can but I want somewhere where I can go and work a few times a week say.

    And heres another question, if you are working on a farm but you are not getting paid is that classed as a job or just helping?

    Thanks, please get back. 

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    tractor mad cocotractor mad coco
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    dont think theres any legal age and about being 13 to work machines i was twele when i first hauled bales with a single spike.

     i think you could class helping on the farm as a job not that it really matters

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    fordtractor7740fordtractor7740
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    Alright thanks a lot.

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    JacobusJacobus
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    fordtractor7740 – you need to be very careful and anyone employing young people under school leaving age (last Friday in June of your final year) has to jump through various hoops to comply with the law.  From the employer’s perspective there are heavy fines for employing an illegal worker and from from your perspective you would probably find that you would not be covered by the farm’s employers liability insurance.

    Unless the farm you are helping out on is run by your parents I believe the rules would apply and, whether or not you were receiving a wage, you would be considered a worker.

    In the UK it is illegal to employ anyone under the age of 13.

    From 13 to 14 the type of work you can do is severely restricted (on a farm – light agricutural work not involving machinery).  The rules are relaxed slightly between 14 and 16.  In any case the employment of people below school leaving age has to have permission from and be registered with the local education authority.

    In addition to the national legal framework many local authorities have byelaws covering child labour. 

    To find out more look on the website of your local education authority ******* Council or Unitary Authority) or ring their education department.  You will probably find there is a leaflet available explaning the position fully.

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    henararhenarar
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    Wasnt there a case a copple of weeks ago in FW I cant find it now about a farm that was fined when the 17 year old farmers son  crashed a tellehandler

    They said that anyone under 18 had to have proper training and that incuded tractors

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    fordtractor7740fordtractor7740
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    Jacobus

    fordtractor7740 – you need to be very careful and anyone employing young people under school leaving age (last Friday in June of your final year) has to jump through various hoops to comply with the law.  From the employer’s perspective there are heavy fines for employing an illegal worker and from from your perspective you would probably find that you would not be covered by the farm’s employers liability insurance.

    Unless the farm you are helping out on is run by your parents I believe the rules would apply and, whether or not you were receiving a wage, you would be considered a worker.

    In the UK it is illegal to employ anyone under the age of 13.

    From 13 to 14 the type of work you can do is severely restricted (on a farm – light agricutural work not involving machinery).  The rules are relaxed slightly between 14 and 16.  In any case the employment of people below school leaving age has to have permission from and be registered with the local education authority.

    In addition to the national legal framework many local authorities have byelaws covering child labour. 

    To find out more look on the website of your local education authority ******* Council or Unitary Authority) or ring their education department.  You will probably find there is a leaflet available explaning the position fully.

    I have done some research and asked a friend and he said you can work on a farm at 13 so you are legally insured and that you CAN use machinery at 13 on private land with permission.

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    Joshua Denley
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    Insured to drive machinery on private land at age 13, you are doing very well.

    I’m 16 and have found it a massive challenge to find a farm where i will be insured.

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    fordtractor7740fordtractor7740
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    Joshua Denley

    Insured to drive machinery on private land at age 13, you are doing very well.

    I’m 16 and have found it a massive challenge to find a farm where i will be insured.

    I meant you are insured to work on a farm normally.I think at 13 you can use machinery on private land with permission.

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    fordtractor7740fordtractor7740
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    fordtractor7740

    [quote user="Joshua Denley"]Insured to drive machinery on private land at age 13, you are doing very well.

    I’m 16 and have found it a massive challenge to find a farm where i will be insured.

    I meant you are insured to work on a farm normally.I think at 13 you can use machinery on private land with permission.[/quote]

    My friend that I asked is 13 and the farm that he works on in Weston super mare he is legally insured to work there. So..

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    Joshua Denley
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    There is a difference between manual labour and the use of machinery. I can find manual work no problems, but work involving machinery (e.g. tractor driving) was very difficult.

    I was just going by what I know happens/ed to me. Also been on a tractor ‘safety’ course when was younger and that clears many things up for legal purposes.

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    fordtractor7740fordtractor7740
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    Joshua Denley

    There is a difference between manual labour and the use of machinery. I can find manual work no problems, but work involving machinery (e.g. tractor driving) was very difficult.

    I was just going by what I know happens/ed to me. Also been on a tractor ‘safety’ course when was younger and that clears many things up for legal purposes.

    Ah, I see. Can you tell me a bit more about the course please.

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    Joshua Denley
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    Have dropped you a message with a few details.

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    Farmer Dan 6465
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    Tis a bit of a difficult one this topic, is there a minimum age or not?

    I am fortunate to have been born into a farming family, and as such I started young, very young, feeding calves and learning to steer a tractor from the age of 5.

    As a 9 year old I was driving a tractor rowing up silage with a haybob on a 35 while my father was in the same field baling.  Was this too young? probably yes, and the neighbours in the houses beside one field thought so too.

    At 12 I was milking alone, not regularly, but would do it when there was nobody else on the farm, dad told me only recently that when I was 12 and at home milking because he had a meeting to be at, a neighbouring farmer asked who was milking, and was shocked to find that I was doing it.  Was this too young? probably yes

    At 15 I was left at home to run the farm while the rest of the family had a weeks holiday, had 2 cows calve and 20 acres of second cut silage to do + day to day jobs.  Was this too young? probably yes

    Thankfully all has gone well, and I am grateful to my father for the opportunities that were given to me, but there is no way I would expect to take on someone at 13 and send them out to do these jobs without some serious training and supervision first.  And to add to this maturity is more important than age.

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    Joshua Denley
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    Farmer Dan, I would love to of had the opportunities of being born on to a farm but it had gone out of the family by my time. But being allowed to do things on a farm which is your own is very different.

    Have to agree the maturity bit as well. Many people see 16 year olds as very immature, but then there are people like me around who are very mature and sensible and want to learn. It just seems the opportunities can be very limiting.

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    JacobusJacobus
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    fordtractor7740

    I have done some research and asked a friend and he said you can work on a farm at 13 so you are legally insured and that you CAN use machinery at 13 on private land with permission.

    fordtractor7740  –  I don’t know where you have researched but here is a link to the appropriate page of the Somerset ****** Council website where you will find various leaflets to download or view.  They set out clearly what work young people are not permitted to do (which includes working near dangerous machinery) and how to go about obtaining the necessary child work permit.  The advice your friend gave you is correct in that you can work on a farm at 13, but not with machinery.  What you can or cannot do on your own family’s farm or elsewhere if not regarded as being part of a job is a different matter. 

    Good luck and stay safe.

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