massey ferguson 4225-4245
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Thursday 10 April 2003 at 20:56
looking for a s/h 4WD loader tractor, does anybody have anything good or bad to say about the models listed.
what is the 12*12 shuttle transmission like on loader?
has the 4200 range been de-valued at all since the release of the 4300 range?
do they keep going well at high hours
are there any problems that go through the range>?
how much could one in decent condition be found for?
thanks for any help
Thursday 10 April 2003 at 22:30
Have had a 4245 with a MF branded Quicke loader for nearly 5 years. Only problems have been with the dash steaming up and stopping rev-counter and PTO speed read-out. Haven’t sorted these yet but gather the sealed units aren’t cheap.12/12 gearbox is good for loader and general use. My main criticism would be that the reverse speeds are about 20% faster than equivalent forward gear. If you want to frighten yourself try nearly 50kph in reverse!. Avoid the 18 speed gearbox, not enough gears in reverse and a small part breaks inside which costs a fortune to get at. Can’t really comment on values but they are really only a modernized 165 and are fairly easy to fix.
Friday 11 April 2003 at 18:36
we have a 4260 and the dealer serviced it today he said the power shuttle is crap as it burns the clutch out he said the 12×12 manual shuttle is the best
Friday 11 April 2003 at 22:15
Stay away from Power shuttle if doing loader work. Problem is that as back end is basically the same as old MF135, there isn’t enough oil capacity to cope with loader,and p/shuttle clutches, which results in pressure drop so clutch can slip, plus reduced oil flow over clutch plates thus reduced cooling. If no loader work then p.shuttle will work not too badly. It was for this reason that MF stopped p/shuttle option way back in 2000.
12×12 manual shuttle fairly bomb proof, reliable and parts ready available should it need any tinkering with, however you cannot retrofit creeper gears to this box. Was only ever available as factory fit option..(not enough space here to explain why). Worth considering if u have possible requirement for such low speeds. Great tractor otherwise
Saturday 12 April 2003 at 10:09
sam ,if you click the link on greg davidsons posting on dealer web sites look at mf, chandler ,lesters and dobsons etc you will get prices of mf range, they havent dropped much when you consider the big discounts that were on the go when the 4300 series came out . they are good for loader work,good hydraulics not too much too go wrong
Wednesday 16 April 2003 at 07:59
Cornthwaites have a lovely w reg in ,give Stuart a call on01704 822343 07712 783901.
Sunday 20 April 2003 at 21:13
There can’t be many Ash Flemings that know much about masseys!!!!
You poor man thought you would have found a proper job by now!!!
Sunday 20 April 2003 at 22:34
Go on give us a clue….Colin who???
Moved on from Masseys, left just b4 they shut B/L, now with a dodgy French car manufacturer, which is now tied up with Claas!!!
Monday 21 April 2003 at 07:28
Hey Ash, have you thought of Colin Mitchell. Might be completely wrong but your the only Ash Fleming I’ve met too & he’s the only Colin I know who knows you. If it’s not sorry to have confused you further!
Monday 21 April 2003 at 21:02
And who the hell are you then cowman???
I don’t feel sorry for you Ash if it’s glorious Renaults that you are working with now, we had three in our potato planting squad today, (and one John Deere and one Massey, the only one thats left now).
Sunday 18 January 2004 at 00:21
thinkin of buying a 4370 with p/shuttle. what can you do to prevent the pressure drop and stop the clutch pack from slipping. I was told that the oil was running to hot and this caused the clutch pack to seize, so does it need a bigger oil cooler.
Sunday 18 January 2004 at 22:49
if your buying new u do realise this range has been discontinued since coventry closed the new 5400 series would be better as it has the 16 speedshift box and transaxle from the late 3000 series (this box was the most reliable) also hydraulics have more capacity the 4300 series really had run out of time from the 300 series on dont forget the trans was a tinkered with 185 one thing i could add is look at comments posted on here try a jd are so many so wrong?
Tuesday 27 January 2004 at 14:52
I have a 2001 MF 4255 which has been very troublesome since
new.Tractor went back to dealer when 3 wks old to sort out
faulty injector pump.Fine gauze in lift pump often gets
blocked due to tiny size.Pipes from front rear wash wipe
bottle were not properly coupled and then in August 2003
when tractor was just 2 yrs old with 500 hrs on clock forward reverse clutch packs burnt out.
The problem was rectified by fitting modified components
as used in latest 4300 series.Mechanic said that oil cooling system was cause of failure and had been modifying
these tractors for a long time.
Were these tractors ever properly tested ?.
They say that they have sent a claim in to MF but have not
replied,in the meantime the dealer expects us to pay for
the modification ! What is your oppinion on this matter.
Posted on behalf of brychan anwyl199655
Tuesday 27 January 2004 at 22:49
sounds about right we ran exclusively mf for 40 yrs and do have some good modelswe had the balancers on a 6 mnth 290 go and all did at 1200 hrs what a job getting on warranty a 390 with a faulty engine casting 3900 hrs and the cast broke leaving a hole big enough to get your fingers in and rendering block useless did mf want to know like hell they did how many gearboxes needed replacing on the 6100 seriesdue to a fractured oil line how many recalls have they had? suffice to say i changed brands a jd not without faults thermo viscous coupling oil leak on frt axle sender switches all relaced no prob then 6 mnths out of warranty e range loses synchro faulty set up in gearbox wat do jd do fix foc and they listen to what customers want no wonder they sell now all mf need to do is 1 lsten to customers 2 get rid of that 6 pot perrkins put in sisu 3 correct faults and look after customers what does anyone else think
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