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re your tractor test,
robexel prob right about the seatbelt, thou do check with the test centre.
as far as i'm aware flashing tit only seen in legs and co! a glasgow gentleman's club so i'm told!
flashing lights thou are compulsory on dual carriageways though not on other roads, but would still be advisable in my humble view.
I know there were masive repercussions with the last outbreak, affecting many poeple to a far greater extent than others but the bbc news coverage made a bigger issue of the defra v scottish government stand off at the time than the problems that led up to and the control of the outbreak itself. very disappointing! and just what did the bbc want scotland to do? invite lorry loads of infected stock north, or maybe just sit back and take the financial hit incurred!
Sorry I'm to young to remember Ted Heath! But it doubt it would be that straight forward an issue as French processors are unlikely to export to a market with low margins if they have access to better home markets. I also don't believe France is one of the main milk exporting countries, UK imports are far more likely to come from Ireland and even NZ and Australia rather than continental Europe.
I'm not an expert but in my experience Chillton/Maulinux (prob wrong spelling there but you'll know what i mean!) have one on an 1996 case4230 that's 9000plus hours and up until 3years ago it was only loader on the 130cow dairy unit keeping all youngstock, for filling feeding wagon bale handling fertiliser etc. Fair bit of wear on pins now but has done a hell of a lot of work. At the time it was 1000 cheaper than Scandinavian alternative and came with higher spec, joystick, self leveling. Not that taking loader off tractor was regular job but is very safe and simple, one lever on each side, and third lever for hydraulic coupling, no tools needed quick and easy.
rough figures are that of global milk production only about 8% is traded on international markets, of that 8% NZ and to a lesser extent Australia account for around 3/4. However it must be remembered that it is this 8% that generally sets domestic prices around the world either your domestic market supplies any of this international trade or not. The only exception is probably Canada and Japan. Most international trade involving the UK happens across the only land border there is, with the Rep of Ireland and in the bigger scheme of things only proves to processors that milk brokers are willing to move supplies if need be to get improved returns.
Don't want to be the first on this site to say this but here goes, Ted Heath is not to blame!!! There said it, and the sky has not fallen in!
thank you for the complement on the quality of my last post here! glad to see someone else shares my view point regarding UK production, the biggest worry for the future i see is less to do with supply and demand and more to do with the fact that less output means less processing capacity requirements and an obvious knock on effect in jobs and the local economies where this extra less efficient capacity is. then of coarse if there's less processing capacity there is less demand for an already smaller milk pool further reducing farm gate prices in the future.
aaaargh! where's my passport til i join the brain drain!
[quote user="townie"]I don't think we'll immediately see demand being driven by capacity.[/quote]
not sure your 100% right on this point an example already being Ireland where processors need to maintain through put of litres to keep plants viable (say roughly 80% capacity) drives farm gate prices up, then when one or two close maybe around the 70% mark those left see an increase from 75ish% to a position nearer or above optimum capacity meaning competition for litres is less and prices ease.
all this proves is the farmer's customer is the processor not the consumer, and since farmers have been told for the past 10years or more to concentrate on the customer have they been miss led to who that is?
Buro basher ur right about markets being the driving factor. the point i was making was that if some of the processing capacity disappears the UK has obviously less processing capacity and therefore lower demand regardless of end consumer demand, that will be filled by imports.
Markets would suggest then that farm gate milk price will be lower as demand is less.
In answer to oliver's point the UK produces only small amounts of powder simply because we do not produce enough milk to fill UK requirements never mind export in large volumes to gain from bouyant world markets, partly due to a historically low quota limit, and because when markets were showing only slim returns the UK didn't have scale in the powder sector to provide a return at low margins. Hence UK production has contracted to a level where we as a country are unable to benefit from higher prices in the powder sector.
robexel, i think market returns and geography are far more likely to dictate what milk ends up in what sector of the market, as all producers are paid on quality based prices and where there are penalities for poor quality milk. for example a producer halfway between a cheese plant and a liquid processor is in all likely hood going to supply 1 or other either directly or through a broker than supply a processing plant at the other end of the country even if it is this plant that is the most viable highest paying in the country.
your question doesn't have a straight forward answer other wise we'd all be wise men (not wiseman!) and women! The fact is the home market has a floor put in place by the international trade, and it is in the interest of retailers and processors to keep the gap between home market and global market as narrow as possible (and sometimes below). Processors look to have longer contracts to give a flatter price for lengthy periods to allow them to make longer term plans, the international trade has steep rises and falls. the problem in the UK i think is producers would happily weather a falling market if it allowed them to benefit from rising prices when the market allowed.
The problem in the UK at least in part is processors/retailers are quick to drive down domestic prices when world prices are falling even though the country has little exposure to world markets but fairly slow in increase them in a rising world market, the time lag seams to be 8+months, this is no doubt in part due to producers having little negotiating power. often by the time domestic markets start to reflect stronger world markets they have eased off the highs.
In answer to your question though my guess is if a producer has the time, money, location and knowledge to invest the best returns will come from processing their own milk for high value, niche, local markets such as ice cream, yogurt, possibility cheese. but by their very description these markets are not available to the majority of producers.
Not an expert on this topic, but it is my belief that it is only the trunk road network that farmers need to be aware that keeping them clean during and after muddy operations is their job if they put it there in the first place, all other roads, A or B or minor class, it is the driver's resposability to be aware of road conditions. Mud is part and parcel of rural driving. However be extremely cautious explaining this to someone who has just prangged their pride and joy of a motor!#904036
Monday 29 December 2008 at 09:16 - in reply to: How has the farm changed over the past 10 years
,Re: How has the farm changed over the past 10 years,Massively! Gone from 160ac owned and 200seasonal lets to 500 sldt with 50 still owned and 50seasonal. Dairy cow numbers up from 70 to a peak of 160thou off that peak now, with the increased and better quality land now growing most of fed on farm and seeing great benefits of this. Able to achieve this because now in an area with 30 inches less rain and 700feet closer to sea level! Best move ever made! Is the future not more important thou, see greater opportunities ahead! opportunity in next few ,, Post
,Re: Agricultural Predictions for 2009,With falling house prices the practice of adding 400k to farm values as a reflection of the farmhouse is over, land values will also fall due to reduced borrowing levels and reduced agri returns. Good news for those of us with vision and youth! ,, Post
guessing your not best pleased?!
do agree with earlier post about supplying an overseas based buyer, doesn't matter what structure they are.
not much better off myself as a first milk member but still at reasonable ppl, just!
liquid values are protecting GB to some degree thou not until less economic processors, be they plc ltd or coop, drop out will farmgate price ever be at level most would see as justified. some plants are profitable at 30ppl(farmgate) some can't make money at 20ppl! until they fold they'll always be there dragging price down.
add to this the only thing certain in the future is more volatility in global markets, either ride the roller-coaster or get off!
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